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re: Sorry guys... get off Miles' arse, this ain't on him.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:31 pm to ewilliams000
Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:31 pm to ewilliams000
These kids could see the writing on the wall and that is why they left.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 12:38 pm to MontanaTiger
quote:Bama took LSU to the wire in 2007, Saban's first year, when Saban had scrubs left over from the Shula clusterfrick, and almost beat Miles who had about 5 guys who went in the first 2 rounds of the draft.
Bama sends just as many players to the NFL, yet they never seem to get decimated by early departures - look at McCarron and Mosley this year, both of whom could have gone pro last year. Why is this? I'm serious - could someone please explain why NFL quality players seem to stay longer at other schools, yet jump ship from LSU at the first inkling of a pro career.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 1:11 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
Saban implied that the 2nd half performance was one of the best by an Alabama team during his tenure. I don't know what Les or anyone else can do about that.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:40 pm to Mo Jeaux
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This is what kills me. They lost a lot on their OL from last year, and they looked weaker earlier this season. But they get better as the season progresses. We get worse or stay the same. There is a lack of focus and discipline on basics in our program.
This bugs me too. Like I said in another thread, I can't remember the last time an LSU unit improved over the season. Maybe the offense in 2010 got a little better later on.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:42 pm to DONHOGG
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These kids could see the writing on the wall and that is why they left.
Pretty sure it was for money that they would otherwise never earn. Some of them have proven to be dumbasses for their decision, and some made the right move. But it was all for money, any other asserted reason is wrong.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:43 pm to Choctaw
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3 plays basically lost this game
This can be said about most games.
We were completely dominated in the second half.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:45 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Bama took LSU to the wire in 2007
LSU also took Bama to overtime in 2008, which was the worst LSU team since 2000. Bama went 12-0 in that regular season. Works both ways.

Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:47 pm to Choctaw
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3 plays basically lost this game
Those three plays were important, but we can't say they lost the game for us. Can't cherry pick like that. Bama dropped 4 INTs.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:48 pm to mytigger
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But the reality is that this game was lost last year when 11 underclassmen went to the league
We lost to Bama last year, too with those guys still on the team.
If Les hadn't given that game away by going conservative at the end, he wouldn't be getting quite as much heat for this more understandable loss.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:49 pm to mytigger
Will the excuses ever stop? We're .500 in SEC play this year, and will likely end the year that way. We won't be any better next year, and all the sunshine pumpers will talk about how Jennings needs a year under his belt and blame it on players going pro for a 2nd year in a row. There is no end in sight.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:52 pm to MontanaTiger
Bama sends just as many players to the NFL, yet they never seem to get decimated by early departures - look at McCarron and Mosley this year, both of whom could have gone pro last year. Why is this? I'm serious - could someone please explain why NFL quality players seem to stay longer at other schools, yet jump ship from LSU at the first inkling of a pro career.
I wonder the same thing. Is it because Saban's players have more respect for him or believe that he will guide them to another championship??
Posted on 11/11/13 at 2:55 pm to tigercamp
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Why is this? I'm serious - could someone please explain why NFL quality players seem to stay longer at other schools, yet jump ship from LSU at the first inkling of a pro career.
We lose defensive talent. I believe they were frustrated with the offense and had no fatih the staff would fix it. So why comeback? go get paid. Who wouldn't.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 3:15 pm to mytigger
I'm a big Miles fan but this is on him.
We just abandoned the running game. Don't use the guy that is the 2nd leading rusher in the conference in the one game you really need him.
Bench your starting FB for fumbling at the one, for the entire game. Who knows if it would've made a difference if he played but he certainly won't make any plays sitting on the sidelines. Remember that big run he had in last year's game? I understand the way he is with fumbling but bench him for a series, a quarter, not the entire game. His stubbornness is one of his biggest shortcomings.
Don't pull out all the stops. No trick plays, nothing to catch Alabama by surprise. No reverse plays like in 2010 when Ridley took the ball then tossed it to DeAngelo Peterson and caught Alabama sleeping.
Again, I'm not personally trying to bash the man. I've met him personally and I really like the guy but in the one game where we should've won, or at least make it closer than it was, that falls on him and the coaching staff. I hate to say it but it does.
We just abandoned the running game. Don't use the guy that is the 2nd leading rusher in the conference in the one game you really need him.
Bench your starting FB for fumbling at the one, for the entire game. Who knows if it would've made a difference if he played but he certainly won't make any plays sitting on the sidelines. Remember that big run he had in last year's game? I understand the way he is with fumbling but bench him for a series, a quarter, not the entire game. His stubbornness is one of his biggest shortcomings.
Don't pull out all the stops. No trick plays, nothing to catch Alabama by surprise. No reverse plays like in 2010 when Ridley took the ball then tossed it to DeAngelo Peterson and caught Alabama sleeping.
Again, I'm not personally trying to bash the man. I've met him personally and I really like the guy but in the one game where we should've won, or at least make it closer than it was, that falls on him and the coaching staff. I hate to say it but it does.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 3:24 pm to mytigger
Nope it's my fault I wore the same socks & shirt & jeans that I wore at ole miss & Georgia
This one is on me
This one is on me
Posted on 11/11/13 at 3:56 pm to Cracker
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Cracker
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Nope it's my fault I wore the same socks & shirt & jeans that I wore at ole miss & Georgia
This one is on me
I can take some of the blame too. Someone texted me right after kickoff asking if my newborn was wearing the LSU socks i bought her. She wasn't. I knew we'd lose.

Posted on 11/11/13 at 4:27 pm to mytigger
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Miles didn't lose this game...
But the reality is that this game was lost last year when 11 underclassmen went to the league. It's really as simple as that. We don't have the depth or talent that Alabama does....
The reality is that Miles in charge of recruiting and developing talent.
The reality is that Miles is in charge of getting underperforming upperclassmen off the field in favor of getting the younger more athletic, though possibly "not quite ready" kid on the field to at least get some experience since the starter isn't cutting it anyways.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 5:13 pm to MontanaTiger
This is my answer to the question regarding early departures to the NFL and why McCarron and Mosley are still at Alabama this year.
I think that the emphasis upon leadership is stronger at Alabama than at other places, including LSU. McCarron is the leader on offense of this Alabama team, and Mosley is the leader on defense. It's that simple, really.
Saban probably brought the two of them into his office and told them, 'With you two as our leaders, we could make another run at a championship season.'
Saban is the one who brought in the two leaders that won your two recent national championships -- they were both named Matt -- Mauck and Flynn. Just as McCarron hasn't received credit from the national media regarding this part of his game, so Mauck and Flynn have never received credit for that part of their game.
Saban's policy obviously is to turn a guy loose to the pros if his athleticism is his chief asset. Seems that this is the best policy, particularly when you factor in the possibility that a career-ending injury can deprive a player of tens of millions of dollars.
Bear Bryant established the principle at Alabama that winning championships is the primary goal of the program. Nick Saban has followed that policy. It is possible that he learned it from his college coach at Kent State, Don James, who recently died but was a Bear Bryant aficionado if not an outright disciple of his. James won a national championship at Washington in about 1991.
"The Legends Tent on the Quad" is a game day tradition on the Alabama campus, when the "legends" of the past sign autographs for the fans before the game. Most of these "legends" contributed as players to a championship. This is looked upon as an honor by Alabama football players. This is this sort of thing, I think, that kept McCarron and Mosley at Alabama this year.
Quarterback Pat Trammell was Bryant's initial leader at Alabama when they won the 1961 AP and UP national championship. My New Orleans friend, who was AD and basketball coach at a private school there, is an Alabama fan. When Trammell died at age 28, my friend said, "He could have been governor of Alabama."
I think that the emphasis upon leadership is stronger at Alabama than at other places, including LSU. McCarron is the leader on offense of this Alabama team, and Mosley is the leader on defense. It's that simple, really.
Saban probably brought the two of them into his office and told them, 'With you two as our leaders, we could make another run at a championship season.'
Saban is the one who brought in the two leaders that won your two recent national championships -- they were both named Matt -- Mauck and Flynn. Just as McCarron hasn't received credit from the national media regarding this part of his game, so Mauck and Flynn have never received credit for that part of their game.
Saban's policy obviously is to turn a guy loose to the pros if his athleticism is his chief asset. Seems that this is the best policy, particularly when you factor in the possibility that a career-ending injury can deprive a player of tens of millions of dollars.
Bear Bryant established the principle at Alabama that winning championships is the primary goal of the program. Nick Saban has followed that policy. It is possible that he learned it from his college coach at Kent State, Don James, who recently died but was a Bear Bryant aficionado if not an outright disciple of his. James won a national championship at Washington in about 1991.
"The Legends Tent on the Quad" is a game day tradition on the Alabama campus, when the "legends" of the past sign autographs for the fans before the game. Most of these "legends" contributed as players to a championship. This is looked upon as an honor by Alabama football players. This is this sort of thing, I think, that kept McCarron and Mosley at Alabama this year.
Quarterback Pat Trammell was Bryant's initial leader at Alabama when they won the 1961 AP and UP national championship. My New Orleans friend, who was AD and basketball coach at a private school there, is an Alabama fan. When Trammell died at age 28, my friend said, "He could have been governor of Alabama."
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