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Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:20 am
Posted by ksliman
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2006
1166 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:20 am
how pulling for Auburn or Alabama or Florida or any other team that LSU recruits against in ANY sport DIRECTLY helps LSU.

LSUs championships are used to entice recruits to come to LSU instead of other schools. Won't Auburn or Alabama or others use their championships in the same way?

So I again ask for a CLEAR EXPLANATION of how any SEC school's championship helps LSU to recruit or win games or be more competitive in a game?

To put it another way, if you are rooting for another SEC team to be more successful than LSU in pursuit of championships, are you also rooting for them to be more successful in recruiting?
Posted by Boomski
Pickens, SC
Member since Jul 2008
603 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:22 am to
I have always hated this as well. I do not understand the whole confrence pride thing. If your not LSU then piss off.


Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:22 am to
It only indirectly helps LSU by helping the SEC stay atop the college football world so that when an SEC team has a loss, they still have a better shot of getting into the NC.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73144 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:23 am to
street cred
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:24 am to
It doesn't. Some people have this "SEC pride" for some reason. Personally, i couldn't give a rats arse about the SEC. They'll cheer for Auburn to win a NC because its "good for the SEC" without realizing it could possibly hurt LSU.
Posted by ndtiger
vicksburg, ms
Member since Aug 2004
8676 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:24 am to
quote:

It only indirectly helps LSU by helping the SEC stay atop the college football world so that when an SEC team has a loss, they still have a better shot of getting into the NC.


+10000

This is huge. Dont be short sighted about it.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:24 am to
quote:

LSUs championships are used to entice recruits to come to LSU


Opportunities to PLAY for championships are used. The past one's do not benefit the recruit. They simply point out that LSU is a place that CAN play for one.

The SEC winning makes the SEC more respected and gives the benefit of the doubt to SEC champs.




Also, I am not a whining baby. I can respect the teams that outplay LSU and appreciate that their being good makes my Saturdays in the fall more enjoyable.

I do NOT want Boise State's schedule.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:24 am to
I hope Auburn gets spanked in every game they play
Posted by ndtiger
vicksburg, ms
Member since Aug 2004
8676 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:25 am to
quote:

The SEC winning makes the SEC more respected and gives the benefit of the doubt to SEC champs.




Also, I am not a whining baby. I can respect the teams that outplay LSU and appreciate that their being good makes my Saturdays in the fall more enjoyable.

I do NOT want Boise State's schedule.


+10000000
Posted by 1p56
Thats da admin who banned my avatar
Member since Aug 2010
1751 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:26 am to
Anyone worth their salt wants to be the best by beating the best.

It's why SEC football is what it is - you know you are going against the best week after week.

Losers, bullies and little-sister-beaters love everyone else being weak so they can be on top.

Which one are you guys?
Posted by lashinala
End of 565
Member since Jan 2006
5716 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:29 am to
we beat the last 2 national champ this year.
And some still question whether we are worth our salt.
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24294 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:33 am to
You must not listen to very much national media and the SEC domination discussions. Every time someone starts this discussion whether for the SEC or arguing against someone points out the list of SEC National Champions the last few years. LSU is always in the discussion.

If Oregon or BS or TCU win it this year instead of Auburn then that discussion will cease.
Posted by jmath23lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
811 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:36 am to
The SEC being a dominant conference helped LSU get into the title game in '07. Reputation of the conference helps strength of schedule. And honestly, I don't think winning a national championship bolsters recruiting that much.

Sure it helps, but its not like you get any kid you want just because you won a title last year.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7178 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:42 am to
I'm probably in the middle on this one. I generally pull for SEC teams, probably out of a sense of regional pride and perhaps moreso because I am familiar with them. I watch SEC football much more than I watch other teams play, so when they play out of conference opponents, I tend to want them to win. I also like the SEC keeping up its rep as the toughest conference because I think that does help LSU with the coaches and Harris poll voters. But that's about the limit of my conference pride. I had a ball watching Bama get licked by Utah and I have been known to pull for Auburn's opponents, too (especially if they play Wisconsin; I like the Badgers).
Posted by vdecossa
Tampa, FL
Member since Jan 2009
29 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:45 am to
For me, besides SEC pride, its economics. LSU gets more money from the SEC for more SEC teams playing in bowl games, especially if we get 2 teams in BCS bowls.

If LSU has no shot at playing for the national champioship even if Oregon and Auburn have losses, I would much prefer Auburn to play in the National Championship game and take the $17 million back to the SEC. In that scenario, we would likely also get a BCS bowl for another $17 million payout to take back to the SEC. The SEC teams would split $34 million, just from those two games.

If Auburn or LSU do not play for the national championship, we may only get $17 million total to split amongst the SEC teams.

This is not to mention the prestige of the SEC and getting better bowl tie-ins, for even more bowl money to split.

Although, I do understand the hate of SEC schools. I only root for them if it helps LSU atheltics.
Posted by The Virginian
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2008
221 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 8:58 am to
If you build up the competition and then beat the competition, your team looks that much better.

Would the win against Alabama look different if they didn't win a national championship last year? I think it would.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:02 am to
quote:

Someone Please Explain To Me
how pulling for Auburn or Alabama or Florida or any other team that LSU recruits against in ANY sport DIRECTLY helps LSU.

LSUs championships are used to entice recruits to come to LSU instead of other schools. Won't Auburn or Alabama or others use their championships in the same way?

So I again ask for a CLEAR EXPLANATION of how any SEC school's championship helps LSU to recruit or win games or be more competitive in a game?

To put it another way, if you are rooting for another SEC team to be more successful than LSU in pursuit of championships, are you also rooting for them to be more successful in recruiting?

First you're going to have to explain to me how a fan pulling for a team that they're watching play on TV actually helps that team win the game.

Then I'll tell you that LSU is only as good as its competition. The better the teams LSU beats, the better LSU is perceived.
Posted by DadFanAlum
TEXAS!
Member since Oct 2010
1188 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:11 am to
That's a good question, and your position is valid. I respectfully disagree, however.

1. Regional pride. I remember all those years when the SEC teams were considered second tier by the sportscasters who loved ND, Ohio State, USC, Michigan, etc. The return of objectivity via the BCS has laid waste to those prejudices, and I for one will always chant "SEC!" when I'm at a game where an SEC school puts a beatdown on one of those pampered pretenders.

2. If LSU does well it does not affect recruiting that significantly for other SEC schools to do well also. A kid who is leaning LSU/Ala is not going to make his choice because we finish #5 and bama finishes #2. If he does he's an idiot. And if we all finish well it enhances the conference reputation for all of us.

3. I draw the line at cheaters. I will not pull for Auburn in any postseason games this year.
Auburn
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:12 am to
quote:

It doesn't. Some people have this "SEC pride" for some reason. Personally, i couldn't give a rats arse about the SEC. They'll cheer for Auburn to win a NC because its "good for the SEC" without realizing it could possibly hurt LSU.

You do realize that if Auburn beats Oregon in the BCSCG this year, LSU will have a chance to beat the defending national champs next year AND the team they beat for the championship...?

Lately LSU has had the chance to beat the defending national champs every year (and DID this year) exceoept for those years LSU won it. That's why SEC teams get the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the polls.

If other SEC teams didn't win championships, LSU's schedule would look like TCU's and we'd all be sitting around worrying about if LSU would get enough credit to stave off a one-loss challenger for a spot in the BCSCG.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 11/17/10 at 9:13 am to
quote:

You do realize that if Auburn beats Oregon in the BCSCG this year, LSU will have a chance to beat the defending national champs next year AND the team they beat for the championship...?

If Oregon beats Auburn then LSU has the same chance
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