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Someone breakdown scholarships, NIL etc in plain terms.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:49 pm
Scholarships - Player gets offer in high school and signs with LSU. At that point is LSU on the hook for 4 years for that person to be on the team, take up a scholarship etc etc? Obviously player can bolt, but can the team bolt too if the player ultimately sucks, gets injured etc?
NIL - LSU goes out and offers someone $5 million. Is that just a year by year deal? Two year deal, depends on the deal etc?
I guess best example is currently with LSU baseball. We got out and offer all these transfers NIL money, scholarships etc and they come in and just suck. Assuming LSU is stuck or can these players be fired per se.
Honest questions as I also have a daughter (no pics a holes) just starting the college athletic recruiting process and just eat about 1000 different things. Everyone plays their “deal” close to the vest so it’s hard to fully understand it all.
NIL - LSU goes out and offers someone $5 million. Is that just a year by year deal? Two year deal, depends on the deal etc?
I guess best example is currently with LSU baseball. We got out and offer all these transfers NIL money, scholarships etc and they come in and just suck. Assuming LSU is stuck or can these players be fired per se.
Honest questions as I also have a daughter (no pics a holes) just starting the college athletic recruiting process and just eat about 1000 different things. Everyone plays their “deal” close to the vest so it’s hard to fully understand it all.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 4:53 pm to CamdenTiger
Thank you, Captain obvious
Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:10 pm to Im4datigers
Scholarships are year to year. Intent is duration of stay but obligation is annual. Nil is whatever contract is agreed to.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:16 pm to Im4datigers
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daughter (no pics a holes)
NBHNC
Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:20 pm to notbilly
There is processing done to players on all teams and organizations yearly at coaches discretion.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 5:55 pm to Im4datigers
Scholarships - not all sports offer a “full ride”. Tuition, books, fees, room and board. Football does, Men’s and women’s basketball does. None of the other sports offer all that.
NIL - every school has NIL “donors” who they can call when there is an elite player the school wants. However, women have a much higher ceiling when it comes to actual/verifiable NIL, usually through social media. Example: 3 years ago, Instagram calculated a college athlete’s NIL value at 80 cents/follower/year. (Joe Burrow would have been worth $750,000 his last year here. Compared to Livvy Dunne who was worth millions).
Revenue sharing - all schools do it but there are lots of rumors that some sports will be left out in the future. (S.W. gave baseball $245K when the House settlement came out, that was raised to $450K after the NC. Verge recently upped it to over $1M. The top 10 SEC schools give over a million to baseball for revenue sharing).
Most believe the judges in the House settlement set things up to where college athletes will eventually be employees. The current model actually demands it (per FTC). We will see. If that happens, the schools are back in the driver’s seat. Good luck on developing a CBA with a bunch of HS students and college athletes.
NIL - every school has NIL “donors” who they can call when there is an elite player the school wants. However, women have a much higher ceiling when it comes to actual/verifiable NIL, usually through social media. Example: 3 years ago, Instagram calculated a college athlete’s NIL value at 80 cents/follower/year. (Joe Burrow would have been worth $750,000 his last year here. Compared to Livvy Dunne who was worth millions).
Revenue sharing - all schools do it but there are lots of rumors that some sports will be left out in the future. (S.W. gave baseball $245K when the House settlement came out, that was raised to $450K after the NC. Verge recently upped it to over $1M. The top 10 SEC schools give over a million to baseball for revenue sharing).
Most believe the judges in the House settlement set things up to where college athletes will eventually be employees. The current model actually demands it (per FTC). We will see. If that happens, the schools are back in the driver’s seat. Good luck on developing a CBA with a bunch of HS students and college athletes.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:02 pm to Im4datigers
Hello im4datigers, this is GeauxAI, Tigerdroppings newest AI assistant built to answer your questions.
Scholarships (athletic aid): No, LSU (or any school) is not locked in for 4 years when a player signs in high school. Athletic scholarships are almost always one-year renewable agreements.
The school awards the scholarship for one academic year at a time. They must renew (or not) it annually, typically by early July for the next year.
During the current award period (e.g., once the academic year starts), the school generally cannot cancel or reduce it mid-year just because the player sucks, gets injured, or underperforms athletically. NCAA rules protect against that for performance/injury reasons during the term.
At renewal time, the coach/school can choose not to renew for basically any reason (poor performance, injury recovery issues, roster management, coaching changes, etc.), as long as it's not for prohibited reasons like retaliation. They can also reduce the amount.
Multi-year guarantees exist but are not the norm (some Power conference programs offer them more often now, but it's still not automatic). Verbal offers or "we'll take care of you for 4 years" pitches aren't binding.
Player can bolt via the transfer portal (with eligibility rules). The team can effectively "bolt" by non-renewing the scholarship at the end of the year. In practice, coaches often encourage underperformers to enter the portal rather than outright cutting them mid-year.This applies to baseball too. With new roster limits and scholarship increases under recent NCAA changes/settlements, programs have more flexibility but still manage via non-renewals.
NIL (Name, Image, Likeness): This is completely separate from the athletic scholarship. NIL deals are private contracts between the athlete (or their reps) and a brand, booster collective, or sometimes tied to the school indirectly.
Terms vary wildly by deal: Could be one year, multi-year, performance bonuses, per-appearance, etc. There's no standard "LSU offers $5M" structure — it's whatever the parties negotiate.
Many NIL deals (especially big collective ones for roster retention) are structured year-to-year or tied to eligibility/participation at the school.
Termination: Contracts usually have clauses allowing either side to end it for breach, or "for convenience." Schools/collectives often have broad discretion to terminate or reduce payments if the player transfers, underperforms expectations, violates terms, or harms the brand. Athletes might have penalties (buyouts) for leaving early.
If the player "sucks," the collective/school can often stop future payments or not renew the next deal without being "on the hook" long-term, assuming the contract allows it. It's not like employment with strong protections.
LSU baseball transfers example: LSU (and other programs) can bring in transfers with scholarships + NIL promises. If they flop:The scholarship can be non-renewed at year-end (subject to the rules above).
The NIL depends on the specific contract — many are designed to be flexible or have outs for the payer. Collectives/schools aren't stuck paying millions for multiple years to a bust; they structure deals to mitigate risk. Recent changes (roster limits, direct payments under settlements) give programs more tools to manage rosters financially.
Bottom line: Schools/collectives have significant leverage at renewal time and via contract terms. Players have more mobility than before (portal + NIL), but neither side has ironclad multi-year guarantees in most cases. It's a business with annual (or shorter) evaluations. Always read the actual paperwork for specifics — verbal promises aren't worth much. Rules continue evolving with NCAA settlements.
j/k I'm a human, i copy/pasted the above from Grok
Scholarships (athletic aid): No, LSU (or any school) is not locked in for 4 years when a player signs in high school. Athletic scholarships are almost always one-year renewable agreements.
The school awards the scholarship for one academic year at a time. They must renew (or not) it annually, typically by early July for the next year.
During the current award period (e.g., once the academic year starts), the school generally cannot cancel or reduce it mid-year just because the player sucks, gets injured, or underperforms athletically. NCAA rules protect against that for performance/injury reasons during the term.
At renewal time, the coach/school can choose not to renew for basically any reason (poor performance, injury recovery issues, roster management, coaching changes, etc.), as long as it's not for prohibited reasons like retaliation. They can also reduce the amount.
Multi-year guarantees exist but are not the norm (some Power conference programs offer them more often now, but it's still not automatic). Verbal offers or "we'll take care of you for 4 years" pitches aren't binding.
Player can bolt via the transfer portal (with eligibility rules). The team can effectively "bolt" by non-renewing the scholarship at the end of the year. In practice, coaches often encourage underperformers to enter the portal rather than outright cutting them mid-year.This applies to baseball too. With new roster limits and scholarship increases under recent NCAA changes/settlements, programs have more flexibility but still manage via non-renewals.
NIL (Name, Image, Likeness): This is completely separate from the athletic scholarship. NIL deals are private contracts between the athlete (or their reps) and a brand, booster collective, or sometimes tied to the school indirectly.
Terms vary wildly by deal: Could be one year, multi-year, performance bonuses, per-appearance, etc. There's no standard "LSU offers $5M" structure — it's whatever the parties negotiate.
Many NIL deals (especially big collective ones for roster retention) are structured year-to-year or tied to eligibility/participation at the school.
Termination: Contracts usually have clauses allowing either side to end it for breach, or "for convenience." Schools/collectives often have broad discretion to terminate or reduce payments if the player transfers, underperforms expectations, violates terms, or harms the brand. Athletes might have penalties (buyouts) for leaving early.
If the player "sucks," the collective/school can often stop future payments or not renew the next deal without being "on the hook" long-term, assuming the contract allows it. It's not like employment with strong protections.
LSU baseball transfers example: LSU (and other programs) can bring in transfers with scholarships + NIL promises. If they flop:The scholarship can be non-renewed at year-end (subject to the rules above).
The NIL depends on the specific contract — many are designed to be flexible or have outs for the payer. Collectives/schools aren't stuck paying millions for multiple years to a bust; they structure deals to mitigate risk. Recent changes (roster limits, direct payments under settlements) give programs more tools to manage rosters financially.
Bottom line: Schools/collectives have significant leverage at renewal time and via contract terms. Players have more mobility than before (portal + NIL), but neither side has ironclad multi-year guarantees in most cases. It's a business with annual (or shorter) evaluations. Always read the actual paperwork for specifics — verbal promises aren't worth much. Rules continue evolving with NCAA settlements.
j/k I'm a human, i copy/pasted the above from Grok
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:06 pm to Im4datigers
Scholarships are year to year.
Baseball different since the scholarships can be broken down. There are now 34 “roster spots”. Used to be 11.7 scholarships for baseball.
How the brain trust came up with .7 myst be the committee waking up from their weekend drinking binge saying “we did what?”
Baseball different since the scholarships can be broken down. There are now 34 “roster spots”. Used to be 11.7 scholarships for baseball.
How the brain trust came up with .7 myst be the committee waking up from their weekend drinking binge saying “we did what?”
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:08 pm to Lsuray70443
NIL deals are outside of LSU actually. If you get the exact data used we may have to kill you. Lol.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:14 pm to ChiefCornerstone
You are correct about the baseball revenue sharing. I posted that earlier. Scott Woodward had baseball on the low end compared to other SEC teams.
It makes a difference.
It makes a difference.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 6:17 pm to Lsuray70443
Ok so if a baseball guy comes in and bombs (like we had plenty this year) they can technically be shown the door and lsu isn’t on the hook for their remaining college career
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:04 pm to Sponge
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Scholarships (athletic aid): No, LSU (or any school) is not locked in for 4 years when a player signs in high school. Athletic scholarships are almost always one-year renewable agreements.
As of Aug. 1, 2024.
Student-Athlete Core Guarantees
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Schools cannot reduce, cancel or fail to renew athletics aid for athletics reasons, such as:
Injury.
Physical or mental illness.
Athletic ability or performance.
Contribution to team success.
Roster management decisions.
That comes pretty close to guaranteeing the scholarship, though not a spot on the roster.
Posted on 5/19/26 at 7:06 pm to jlbasm
And if you suck, bye bye scholly
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