re: Some news about LSU's offense from the Metairie caravan:

I thought it was a pretty legitimate question. Wasn't intended as a knock on O, he's the one who said it. Just wanting to know which it is. 50% or 90%?

"I wish you would have allowed more time for the idiots to expose themselves. It would probably have been 4 or 5 pages of pure brilliance/comedy."

totally agree. there are fools on here who think Ensminger doesn't know how many players are allowed on the field and, better yet, that they know more about football than the coaches. Really, it's everywhere.

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Thanks. I'm gonna have to give it another shot.

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It was actually the 8th show that people think may be the best of the series. I edited my original post also.

I thought the last 3 episodes were awesome. The also generated a lot of interest. The thread for the 9th episode is nine pages or more and it seems like 4 or 5 pages are about how a character received a piece of information from another.

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Are your one question and one statement 

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Is your*

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average intelligence

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At least I'm smart enough to formulate my own opinion based off of the facts. You just seem to dick ride all the pro O sports writers by posting their work here.

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They'll never be able to stop the "43 Wham" if we throw an extra FB in there. 12 players on the field. Genius

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No, no. Based on the responses in this thread the 43 Wham means there are 43 players on the field. We'll basically just run 33 fullbacks through the hole with one tailback following. Unstoppable play!

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So formations and schemes don’t have anything to do with what type of offense you run?

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I'm really not sure any other way to explain it. Georgia Tech is a triple option team that will line up in a Shotgun formation in 3rd and long. Are they running a spread formation? No. It's just a Shotgun.

Maybe this will help, a scheme is a overall philosophy while a formation is just one set way of aligning the players. Just because the players are aligned 4 wide for one play doesn't mean that the team uses a particular philosophy.

Describe what you would call a spread formation for me, please.

I said He’s never run a spread offense.

You said his first play was out of a 4WR 1 RB formation.

Then called is a spread play. Offering no other evidence as to read or anything else.

Are there plays that overlap? But you can’t use a splay that’s just universal to football as eveidence of running “spread plays”

Single set back


Typical singleback formation
Also known as the "ace" or "singleback" formation, the single set back formation consists of one running back lined up about five yards behind the quarterback. The basic singleback set does not employ a fullback. The other players that are not on the line of scrimmage can either act as tight ends or wide receivers. This formation is normally used for a pass play, but can also be good for running, as defenders must move at least one player out of the middle of the field (the "box", between the tackles on the offensive line) to cover the additional wide receiver or tight end. Since an extra wide receiver is lined up in the space between the tackle or tight end and the outside wide receiver, he is called the slot receiver.


Spread formation
A variation of the ace is known as the spread formation. It utilizes four wide receivers and no tight ends. In the NFL, this formation was the basis of the run and shoot offense that was popular in the 1980s with teams such as the Detroit Lions and the Houston Oilers but has since fallen out of favor as a primary offensive philosophy.
It is often used as a pass formation, because of the extra wide receivers. It also makes an effective run formation, because it "spreads the field" and forces the defense to respect the pass, thus taking players out of the box. Certain college programs, such as the University of Hawaii and Texas Tech still use it as their primary formation. Brigham Young University also uses the spread offense, although they tend to employ their tight ends more frequently than Hawaii and Texas Tech. Minnesota and TCU are also starting to employ the spread offense.



Joe Gibbs's "H-Back" set
Joe Gibbs, twice head coach of the Washington Redskins, devised an ace variation that used a setback, or "flexed" tight end known as an H-back. In this formation, the normal tight-end is almost exclusively a blocker, while the H-back is primarily a pass receiver. This formation is often referred to as a "two tight end" set. Some teams (like the Indianapolis Colts under Tony Dungy) use this formation with both tight ends on the line and use two flankers. Many other teams in the NFL, even those that do not use this as a primary formation, still run some plays using a variant of this formation.

So, do you consider the Saints and Patriots to run spread or spread formations?