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re: Some DC names under consideration when we hired Kevin Steele

Posted on 12/17/15 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by Stud Bud
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 7:21 pm to
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after being turned down by several of his top choices. I'm sure Chavis got more than a couple of calls from better coaches than Steele, who were being considered by Les for the job. They would be stupid if they didn't.


Yeah.

No great DC at an established program was coming to LSU under the conditions of basically working year to year.

They wanted guaranteed money/years.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 7:23 pm to
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Does this mean Les chose the worst option?



It means the other options didn't want to work with Miles
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 7:52 pm to
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means the other options didn't want to work with Miles





You sure? I say they didn't want to work for the clowns that are in charge. This whole chavis thing is showing you Miles isn't the issue. Miles may not be respected by the funny talking idiots of this fanbases, but he's respected by other coaches.
Posted by S
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 7:53 pm to
Well at least we didn't hire ted roof

Positiger out
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 7:53 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56482 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 8:28 pm to
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It means the other options didn't want to work with Miles



I don't think that's what happened.

What happened was that MIles wanted to keep Raymond and bring in Orgeron. And, he wanted the DC to coach LBs.

DCs generally want to bring in some position coaches. That wasn't really on the table...which meant that Miles was going to pick from a small group of coaches willing to accept the conditions.
Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4721 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 8:50 pm to
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Ex-defensive line coach Brick Haley was on the list of candidates to replace Chavis, and Haley and Miles conducted “in-person discussions” about the job, documents say. Haley left the program for the D-line job at Texas.


This is proof that Miles is in over his head. Haley was a terrible coach and towards the end he didn't deliver as a recruited either. Wow.
Posted by JRBayoutiger
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754 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 8:56 pm to
When you leave the defense on the field for the whole game it doesn't matter who the DC is.
Posted by C3W
East Narnia
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 8:57 pm to
I like most of the list more than Steele
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:29 pm to
Where's the AD's blame in this. Not only run Chavisoff in December let him go to a west rival. If u were writing a blue print on how to bring down the LSU football program behind closed doors you'd be close to this agenda. Disrupt recruiting and the staff late in the year and hand A&m a guy that knows your program
Inside and out. then the following year leak out the head coach is going to be terminated while he had at the time the #1 recruiting class in he entire country and finally had a stud out of state QB committed. And then be so slimy to leak the name of the replacement as well.

But, Back to the list a head coach has to hire not only the resume but the chemistry. You can't just hire someone because he's a good defensive guy or once was. Miles is the CEO he as to hire the "right" guy for him as wel as the team. Trust chemistry, understanding recruiting in this part of the country and what that involves etc. A lot of these guys on this list aren't going to be on the road away from their families that much. It's a grind. They aren't ever going to bleed P&G. There's alot that goes into hiring a coordinator for your football program. But what has to be at near the top is the recruiting piece and beating Alabama is near the top as well. He also was under the gun to get someone hired like yesterday. u can't be like Texas or the great USCw and have several people turn u down publicly and end up with a Charlie Strongor Steve Sarkisian. Look around and compare YOUR head coach, his teams and his decisions to the rest of them, apples to apples. It's not an easy job. Who's been consistent in this league for more than 4 years or until their star QB left?
This post was edited on 12/17/15 at 10:18 pm
Posted by dgnx6
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:34 pm to
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When you leave the defense on the field for the whole game it doesn't matter who the DC is.





NDs first drive was 8 minutes. Please. That is not on the offense.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 9:47 pm to
Lol at all the mouth breathers in this thread that think that list was knocking down the door begging to come to BR but Miles just chose Steele over their pleas.


Dear God I wonder how most of the mongoloids on this forum remember to breathe
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 12/17/15 at 10:49 pm to
Lol Dellenger.
Posted by Wind Rivers Tiger
Wyoming
Member since Sep 2011
1033 posts
Posted on 12/17/15 at 11:13 pm to
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Kevin Steele is a good hire. Give him some time to prove himself.


Family man I'm guessing?
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9286 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:38 am to
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Where's the AD's blame in this. Not only run Chavisoff in December let him go to a west rival.


Maybe last year the admins knew they wanted to start looking for another coach, and that's why they didn't want to give chavis a guaranteed contract.

Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 5:48 am to
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DCs generally want to bring in some position coaches. That wasn't really on the table...which meant that Miles was going to pick from a small group of coaches willing to accept the conditions.


This is exactly what I think happened, though unsure of who was pulling the strings behind this. Add the Chavis mess into all this, and that's how you end up hiring a LB coach as your DC.
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
1521 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 6:19 am to
quote:

D.J. Durkin
Brett Venables
David Gibbs
Clancy Pendergast
Bob Shoop
Greg Schiano
Todd Grantham
Bill Clark
Mike Elko
Mike Stoops
Dick Lebeau
Ron Zook
Matt Eberflus
Chris Ash
Don Pellum
Mike Nolan
Sean McDermott
Kirby Smart
Mel Tucker
Jon Hoke
Jack Del Rio
Jim Schwartz
Dean Pees
John Fox


It only proves, none of these guys wanted to actually come here and be one of the highest paid DCs in the country.

Good luck finding a head coach when the time comes.
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
4932 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 7:03 am to
quote:


Some DC names under consideration when we hired Kevin Steele
Kevin Steele is a good hire. Give him some time to prove himself.


Hey, Kev.
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5568 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 7:42 am to
quote:

Where's the AD's blame in this.

It amazes me the extent some of you will go to blame Alleva for anything.
quote:

Not only run Chavisoff in December let him go to a west rival

So it's Alleva's fault Chavis went to a rival school? Is it Skip Bertman's fault that Saban went to a west rival?

Grown men are allowed to make their own decisions. Chavis made his. Alleva didn't push him out of the door. Chavis was whining and asking for things that no one else gets. frick him for handling all of this like a bitch.
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28117 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 7:45 am to
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Jack Del Rio


Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 8:32 am to
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Actually, here is the list: D.J. Durkin Brett Venables David Gibbs Clancy Pendergast Bob Shoop Greg Schiano Todd Grantham Bill Clark Mike Elko Mike Stoops Dick Lebeau Ron Zook Matt Eberflus Chris Ash Don Pellum Mike Nolan Sean McDermott Kirby Smart Mel Tucker Jon Hoke Jack Del Rio Jim Schwartz Dean Pees John Fox


So Miles passed on all of these guys for Steele??? Wow......
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