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re: so every aspect of the team Javi has overseen has regressed under his watch....

Posted on 6/2/11 at 12:50 am to
Posted by Tmon225
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 12:50 am to
What's funny about that video is that towards the end, we see a freshman Daniel Bradshaw pitching in a super regional
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 7:45 am to
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Mainieri who looks like a fool saying recruiting was bad and its Grewe's fault


Please link to any source (other than your posts on TD) which back up your statement above. I've never read or heard PM say what you said.

TD is not here so you can gripe about your nephew's failure to be a good baseball player for LSU. Stop using it as a forum for your personal vendetta.
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 7:54 am to
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just an uncle of a former, disgruntled player that obviously has an ax to grind . . so i know way more than you, so please do not get in the way of my exacting revenge on the man that told my little nephew he is not an SEC caliber player . . unless you are CPM's brother

Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 7:55 am to

From the Advocate:
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Mainieri became animated when he spoke of Sanchez, the Tigers’ hitting coach and third-base coach who has been a target of criticism. “I think our hitting coach and our third-base coach received a lot of undue criticism this year, quite frankly,” he said. “I think Javi does wonderful work, and if you talk to our players, they absolutely adore the guy and they think he does great work.”


Maybe they're lovers.
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 7:58 am to
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Mainieri became animated when he spoke of Sanchez, the Tigers’ hitting coach and third-base coach who has been a target of criticism. “I think our hitting coach and our third-base coach received a lot of undue criticism this year, quite frankly,” he said. “I think Javi does wonderful work, and if you talk to our players, they absolutely adore the guy and they think he does great work.”


Maybe they're lovers.



translation: i think javi's marinading acumen is the BEST in the SEC .. the guy puts cajun injector to shame ! his work with lipton onion soup mix in hamburger patties is uncanny .. there are not too many people in this league that know the exact moment charcoals are the apex of their effectiveness ! you guys really need to taste a javi sanchez burger or rack of ribs off the grill ...
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 8:10 am to
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translation: i think javi's marinading acumen is the BEST in the SEC .. the guy puts cajun injector to shame !


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his work with lipton onion soup mix in hamburger patties is uncanny


Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 8:19 am to
Look I wanted Grewe gone as well, but his pitchers held up their end of the deal more often than our pathetic excuse for an offense this year. Probably should have been fired after the Arkansas or Bama series. Javi is being given a pass because he somehow managed to place himself in just the right spot of PM's a-hole.
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 8:32 am to
how much can you really blame a hitting coach ? by the time you get to D1 college baseball, you should know how to hit a baseball .. when to swing .. when to lay off .. what pitch you will probably see relative to the count .. when to go the other way, how to bunt, etc. ... i think the hitting coach gets way too much credit when the offensive numbers are up and way too much blame when they are down ... the pitching coach, on the other hand, has a greater game to game impact, imo ... and maineri is mainly making grewe the fall guy for recruiting .. although i would love to know whose bright idea the 2009 class was ...

where javi overcooked my grits was his moronic base coaching at third ..
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 8:39 am to
I'm not judging him on offensive #s alone, but when our guys consistently look stupid at the plate with simply horrid at bats I think that falls at the coaches feet. You either recruited a team of terrible hitters or you aren't coaching them properly.

and yes at the very least Javi needs to be relieved of his 3rd base duties.
This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 8:40 am
Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 8:41 am to
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Can anyone explain this?


JJ has shared with him whatever information he is holding over Miles/LSU
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 8:44 am to
i get what you are saying, i guess my point is how much coaching does a 20-year-old D1 college kid need at this point ? does he really need to be told "don't fall behind 0-and-2 and then swing at the next pitch that common sense will tell you is going to be in the dirt outside" ... hitting is an attitude and is contagious on a team .. i.e. the SEC tourney last year ..
Posted by redfish99
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:09 am to
"i guess my point is how much coaching does a 20-year-old D1 college kid need at this point"


At least as much as the major leaguers who have hitting instructers. You obviOusly didn't play past TBALL.Hitting is like the golf swing constant adjustments in set up to grove your swing,constant prep for opposing pichers strengths and weeknesses and much more..........
Posted by TigahRag
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:15 am to
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At least as much as the major leaguers who have hitting instructers. You obviOusly didn't play past TBALL


stop being a typical rant douche and playing the hard arse game .. i played through high school, jack skull .. and there was shite we were doing at the plate this year that was a straight up instinctive, mechanical breakdown that coaching wasn't going to affect one way or another ... LSU hit the ball well in the SEC tournament last season .. was javi just coaching THAT much better over those five days ?

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weeknesses


This post was edited on 6/2/11 at 9:17 am
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:18 am to
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Mainieri who looks like a fool saying recruiting was bad and its Grewe's fault




Please link to any source (other than your posts on TD) which back up your statement above. I've never read or heard PM say what you said.


You haven't been paying attention. Why do you think Grewe was fired? It wasn't because the pitchers didn't do a good job this year. It was because he was the recruiting coordinator and we have a team full of back-up position players.

Obviously, this new poster has an ax to grind, but it doesn't mean that he is way off base. His arguments have some merit.
Posted by nrtiger
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:19 am to
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i guess my point is how much coaching does a 20-year-old D1 college kid need at this point ?


C'mon man! The objective of the hitting coach is to not only help the player with his swing and approach but also watch enough tape to know tendencies of the opposing pitcher so you put your hitter in the best possible spot to succeed. You know what the opposing pitcher throws ##% of the time on a 3-1 count vs. other pitches. That is sort of tough to do when you are coaching 3rd base and doing the Patrick Peterson wave for every base runner regardless of situation or outs.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:22 am to
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but it doesn't mean that he is way off base
Okay, then YOU link to a source where Mainieri is quoted as saying our recruiting has been bad and it was Grewe's fault. I'll be waiting.....
Posted by HebertFest08
The Coast
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:27 am to
there is a fine line with hitting.... too much coaching can hamper and make your swing worse, not enough coaching can do the same. Most of these guys who make it to this caliber can hit or are supposed to be able to hit. Most need just slight tweaks in their swing to be able to adjust to the quality pitching you see at this level. Another thing people aren't really saying is that the hitting coach also teaches a mindset to bring to the plate. Again, it has to be tailored to each player.... its a hard job. and yes i played in college.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 9:34 am to
Javy Dale Peveto
Posted by ehidal1
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 10:17 am to
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Javy Dale Peveto

I prefer Javy Malveto.
Posted by Catman88
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Posted on 6/2/11 at 10:28 am to
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where javi overcooked my grits was his moronic base coaching at third ..


Saying he was a moron in coaching at 3rd is FAR too kind.




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