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re: So a year long suspension isn't enough for Alleva?

Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:07 pm to
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:07 pm to
Yeah is he trying to say reasonable suspicion?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:08 pm to
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#3 was likely kept off record is a reasonable speculation.


Reasonable huh...please, keep going.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:08 pm to
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Google will tell you everything you need to know.

It is very known that it ws drug related. The first incident being last year with synthetic weed.

We don't know about instance 2, meaning it's probably in the off season.

Number 3, we assume through very reasonable context clues given by LSU administration, was what got him kicked off.

LSU policy says 3 tests failed equals suspension for 1 year with the possibility of losing his schoarship.

Please, and I'm trying t be nice, do some research before you come to this board and start spewing off facts.

No links because all you have to do is go to he thread at the very top.


actually #2 was likely the synthetic weed. 1st failed test is a warning. second failed test is a suspension for 15% of games (rounded down) which is where the auburn game came from. third failed test is dismissal for at least an entire year from all athletic activities, which is what happened last week. all these conspiracy theorists are hilarious.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 6:09 pm
Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:08 pm to
Some people will never realize this.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:09 pm to
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Just want to make sure I'm clear on your stance


I'll make it clear for you...

The kid was given at least two chances and has done something to blow both of them. (this is assuming last year's suspension was his second offense). He received a great gift from LSU in a free education and a spotlight to show his talent. He did not follow the rules and must now be punished for his actions like a big boy in the real world. I stick by whatever the AD, School, and Coach decides, but it is their choice because he could not make the correct choices on his own.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:09 pm to
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actually #2 was likely the synthetic weed. 1st failed test is a warning. second failed test is a suspension for 15% of games (rounded down) which is where the auburn game came from. third failed test is dismissal for at least an entire year from all athletic activities, which is what happened last week.




So you answered your previous question speculating as to when he was tested?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72168 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:10 pm to
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Tiger Authority


Man, I'm about to leave you hanging. This board is full of ignorance today and I'm not sure how many times I can repeat the same shite to different people.
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:10 pm to
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The kid was given at least two chances and has done something to blow both of them. (this is assuming last year's suspension was his second offense). He received a great gift from LSU in a free education and a spotlight to show his talent. He did not follow the rules and must now be punished for his actions like a big boy in the real world. I stick by whatever the AD, School, and Coach decides, but it is their choice because he could not make the correct choices on his own.




Again, why is a one-year ban not enough if that is the policy that would allow him to play at every other school in the country?
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:10 pm to
Bye
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:10 pm to
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Again, why is a one-year ban not enough if that is the policy that would allow him to play at every other school in the country?


well he would be ineligible at georgia
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:10 pm to
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Man, I'm about to leave you hanging. This board is full of ignorance today and I'm not sure how many times I can repeat the same shite to different people.




Thankfully dinner will force me to leave.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72168 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:11 pm to
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I'll make it clear for you... The kid was given at least two chances and has done something to blow both of them. (this is assuming last year's suspension was his second offense). He received a great gift from LSU in a free education and a spotlight to show his talent. He did not follow the rules and must now be punished for his actions like a big boy in the real world. I stick by whatever the AD, School, and Coach decides, but it is their choice because he could not make the correct choices on his own.


Are you forgetting about LSU policy
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:11 pm to
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well he would be ineligible at georgia



He would? According to the NCAA?
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:11 pm to
Bc he didn't fail 2,3 or 4 or whatever the # of drug test is at any other school but LSU. The kid didn't want to change. Let it go. He's not coming back
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2072 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:12 pm to
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Google will tell you everything you need to know.

It is very known that it ws drug related. The first incident being last year with synthetic weed.

We don't know about instance 2, meaning it's probably in the off season.

Number 3, we assume through very reasonable context clues given by LSU administration, was what got him kicked off.

LSU policy says 3 tests failed equals suspension for 1 year with the possibility of losing his schoarship.

Please, and I'm trying t be nice, do some research before you come to this board and start spewing off facts.

No links because all you have to do is go to he thread at the very top.


So number 2 and 3 are just assumptions and probables? If we're going to assume and throw out "probably" maybe we should just increase the number to 17 to make a cooler story....
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 6:13 pm
Posted by Festus
With Skillet
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:12 pm to
Cancer don't give a shite.

Gotta cut it off.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

The kid was given at least two chances and has done something to blow both of them. (this is assuming last year's suspension was his second offense). He received a great gift from LSU in a free education and a spotlight to show his talent. He did not follow the rules and must now be punished for his actions like a big boy in the real world. I stick by whatever the AD, School, and Coach decides, but it is their choice because he could not make the correct choices on his own.


no one is defending the fact that he's an idiot for breaking the rules. YOU were arguing that he shouldn't get special treatment and/or he failed more than 3 drug tests.

It isn't special treatment if LSU has a policy in place. It is a NCAA violation if we didn't enforce that policy after the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd offence
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 6:13 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73782 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:13 pm to
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So you answered your previous question speculating as to when he was tested?

what are you talking about? you claimed there was a 4th failed test that we covered up, when there is no evidence to support that. i never insinuated he wasn't tested during fall practice. obviously he was. but the fact of the matter is that if this was the 4th failed test, he was never punished for the 3rd because he was still on the team and practicing OR this mythical failed test no one heard about never happened and this latest failed test was, in fact, his 3rd.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
29476 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:13 pm to
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Bc he didn't fail 2,3 or 4 or whatever the # of drug test is at any other school but LSU. The kid didn't want to change. Let it go. He's not coming back



And he's banned according to NCAA standards of playing next year at another FCS school. He could play the following. LSU should let him play the following if he gets it together and stays. A one-year punishment is sizable.
Posted by fastedLSU
BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:13 pm to
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So number 2 and 3 are just assumptions and probables? If we're going to assume and throw out "probably" maybe we should just increase the number to 17 to make a cooler story....


Might as well be 17, the result is the same. He's gone for good
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