re: Skip dropping all the little LSU secrets on 104.5

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No AD in that position would've done that. Saban was a very good coach at that point...not the legend he is today

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Don't waste your time with the rantards who live their lives in delusion. Miles was being loved by everyone despite his gaffes. 2005-2007 saw LSU having the greatest success in its history and Miles was the HC for that. Saban had just gone through the ringer in Miami and had actually had his team regress when he was there. 2005 he goes 9-7 then in 2006 he goes 4-12. First year at Alabama was not exactly all that pretty either. Saban gets Alabama moving in 2008 but if memory serves got beat up in the SECCG. Saban does not really become SABAN until. 2009.

Also what is this obsession wit Miles' off campus apartment above the Voodoo? Most of the big time programs have those for the reasons that Skip alluded to. Just like the POTUS ( W, Reagan, HW) spent a lot of time at their own houses during the simmer and other times. It's a place to actually get advice and discuss things without some idiot like Guilbeau trying to use FOIA and other things. It's not necessarily a love pad....although Curley had one off of Jefferson Hwy . It used to be that TJ Moran's house was the place where important things got discussed.

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Let me get this straight, people went on to say a QB that had 11 passes throughout the whole season was going to start in the national title game?

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How about "0" then? See Ohio State/Alabama NCG.

Sometimes you have to have an eye for talent on your team, damn the experience. But then of course we know Les is blind in that eye.

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How about "0" then? See Ohio State/Alabama NCG



Those situations aren't comparable.

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Fair enough.

I just wanted to take one last shot at Less Smiles' QB evaluation skills before I move onto the CEO era. Im little bitter still.

I understand there is no way Skip could make that call but that being said I could have done it based on his first game against Tennessee.

TV interview - LINK

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saban was not the coach he is today, and miles had just had 2 11 win seasons. LSU wouldve been the laughing stock of football had they fired les at that point.

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The whole idea of a school being a laughingstock or nobody wanting to go there if they fire a coach is nothing but pure bullshite. Yes, some media idiots will generate their clicks by bitching about it, but when the new coach wins four national championships in seven years (assuming Saban could have done it at LSU the way he did at Alabama), nobody is going to be laughing.

There are so many examples of schools firing a coach, getting criticized for it and the criticism meaning absolutely nothing in the long run, there's no point in even going through the list. This is probably the most overrated and overdone "concern" that people ALWAYS bring up in the context of firing a coach. All that matters is who you hire next. If you do well and get a good one, no one fricking cares or even remembers that you fired somebody they didn't think you should fire two, three or ten years ago.

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I think Harris had the pics but lost them in the flood.

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Along with the secret playbook?

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There are so many examples of schools firing a coach, getting criticized for it and the criticism meaning absolutely nothing in the long run, there's no point in even going through the list.

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"There is so much evidence that clearly shows that Lee Harvey Oswald was not the shooter, and it was in fact a government conspiracy to assassinate JFK, there's no point in even attempting to present the evidence."

What a ridiculous way of arguing a point. I challenge you to provide two examples off of this "list" of schools and coaches of which you speak.

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I challenge you to provide two examples off of this "list" of schools and coaches of which you speak.

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OK, how about eight examples involving seven different schools? Off the top of my head:

Auburn got hammered for firing Terry Bowden mid-season 1998 coming off an SEC West title and sporting a 47-17-1 career record there. Two years later, when they won the SEC West again with Tuberville, nobody gave a damn about Terry Bowden being fired.

People acted like Texas was crazy getting rid of John Mackovic for one bad season in 1997 on the heels of three straight conference championships, but Mack Brown didn't hesitate to take the job, and when he quickly turned them into a consistent powerhouse, the tears for Mackovic were nowhere to be found.

Georgia was vilified for firing Jim Donnan in 2000 after he turned around the program and posted four straight winning seasons and a 40-19 record. Two years later when Mark Richt went 13-1, won the SEC and finished 3rd in the country, people forgot who Donnan even was.

Alabama and its fans were roundly ridiculed for running off Bill Curry coming off a 10-2 SEC Championship season in 1989 (someone had thrown a brick through his window during a 9-3 season in 1988, too). After Gene Stallings went 11-1 in 1991 and 13-0 with a national championship in 1992, nary a word about Bill Curry was even spoken.

Ohio State was one of those proverbial "laughingstocks" you guys love to talk about when they fired Cooper and hired Jim Tressel from a fricking I-AA school. After dominating the Big Ten for a decade under Tressel, they didn't have to explain anything about firing Cooper.

Florida State got all kinds of grief for getting rid of the legendary Bobby Bowden after the 2010 season. Three years later, after a national championship under Jimbo Fisher, what ill effects do you think they were suffering from mistreating poor ole Bobby?

Tennessee (and Philip Fulmer) looked like total assholes in the way they stabbed Johnny Majors in the back two years after he won the 1990 SEC championship (his third in six years and second in a row), but after a decade of dominance under Fulmer, they had nothing to worry about from that any more.

Alabama fired one of its own alums during the season in 2006, less than a year after a 10-2 season and top 10 finish, for a poor season (in progress) and a mediocre overall record while laboring his entire career under some of the most severe sanctions short of the death penalty ever leveled at a school at that time, mainly because a better option (Saban) was available. Do you hear anybody complaining about that now?

There are more, if you'd like me to go on, but I think you get the point. Whatever bitching the media or others do about a coach getting fired, if it's a good opportunity, a good new coach will be glad to take his place and everybody will forget everything if the new coach does well.

No doubt there are cases where schools fired a coach and the replacement did worse. If they were laughingstocks, it wasn't because they fired a coach, it was because they did a shoddy job finding a replacement. The former in no way causes the latter.

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"There is so much evidence that clearly shows that Lee Harvey Oswald was not the shooter, and it was in fact a government conspiracy to assassinate JFK, there's no point in even attempting to present the evidence."

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Stupid analogy. There is practically no evidence that Oswald was not the shooter. There is only doubt about some (and very little at that) of the evidence that he was. Most of the so-called doubt-raising assertions were just outright false. The case against Oswald was very solid, even if there were some minor points on which some could question it, but no way in hell was there anything close to a case that he wasn't the shooter or that anyone else was. That's the fallacy of thinking that any question about the evidence for a competing theory is evidence for yours. It's the same fallacy employed by conspiracy theorists from 9/11 "Truthers" to Obama "Birthers".