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re: Simple question but one I’ve not seen much of here, why didn’t we throw more jump balls?
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:19 am to Mr6daveyobrians
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:19 am to Mr6daveyobrians
Are you suggesting we pass the ball in the red zone?? Don't think our coaches are ready for that just yet.
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Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:21 am to CoachChappy
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That requires some risk.
JB was definitely coached up to avoid throwing picks this season.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 9:23 am to Mr6daveyobrians
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why didn’t we throw more jump balls?
AMEN.
Please go look at highlights from Ohio State's run to the 2014 National Championship game. Cardale was slinging the ball and just hoping they came down with it, and it worked.... Especially against teams that overwhelm you up front, why play 11 on 11 when you can play 1 on 1? You have 2 WRs in Dee Anderson and Stephen Sullivan who should be able to come down with balls like that. Teach them to be physical and get positioning. They have the talent and size to do the rest. It should never be a pick unless the WR fails at his job. At worse incomplete.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 10:02 am to Mr6daveyobrians
Jump balls require timing. Less than back shoulder more than a screen.
Did you see the timing on our screen passes?
Did you see the timing on our screen passes?
quote:actually we did quite a bit. In some really critical series we got cold feet, but overall through the year we did pass in the red zone frequently. Mostly on 2nd downs because 1st down runs sucked many times.
Are you suggesting we pass the ball in the red zone?? Don't think our coaches are ready for that just yet.
This post was edited on 12/6/18 at 10:05 am
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:54 pm to Mr6daveyobrians
Hard for Burrow to throw while lying on his back!
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:58 pm to Loaner1231
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Poorly coached, don't know how to attack the ball at the highest point,
I'm not sure you were implying this, but you can't coach high-pointing the ball. That is a natural technique some of us learn on the playgrounds. Those who don't pick it up naturally will never be able to do it. I've played with many 5.2 40 guys who did it like champs, and I've seen plenty of NFL receivers who could not do it.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:27 pm to Mr6daveyobrians
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This season, we had one of the worst redzone offenses in the country. For the majority of the season we had bottom 2 TD% in the redzone In the SEC.
Given our height at WR, why didn’t we throw more 50/50 jump balls?
Stephen Sullivan 6’6
Dee Anderson 6’5
Justin Jefferson 6’3 (came down with a really nice one vs A&M)
Terrace Marshall 6’2.5
Jamarr Chase 6’1 (who impressed me with his physicality for his relatively small size compared to the rest of our wideouts)
I've been asking that question for two years. The one time they threw it up to Sullivan it ended in the TD before the half. They never throw it to the tall receivers in the end zone. They throw to the shortest WRs and the FB. The OC is not innovative in his strategy. He is risk adverse.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:31 pm to dallastiger55
Idk if you notcid but undetthrown jump balls were our passing game with Etling.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 1:32 pm to justustm2
Seems like the wouldnthrow a lot of those back shoulder throws to the bigger WR’s. I understand the fact that the LSU didn’t have as much talent as previous years.
However the lack of creativity in getting the players the ball in space was ridiculous. Also the offense had no misdirection or deception other than some horribly run screen passes.
However the lack of creativity in getting the players the ball in space was ridiculous. Also the offense had no misdirection or deception other than some horribly run screen passes.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 2:30 pm to Mr6daveyobrians
We traded a run first HC for a run first D line coach and kept paying the HC.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:48 pm to Mr6daveyobrians
Hardly saw it in the red zone, I commented on a thread yesterday about how underutilized the offensive talent is. 6'6" and 6'5" guys and correct me if I'm wrong but they weren't thrown fades to utilize their size. I will say, Sullivan at least, had a problem high pointing balls but I certainly would have tried Dee. One of the picks Burrow threw in the red zone was a f#$king come back route to Dee, put the ball up and make sure your miss is out of bounds so only your guy can get it, it just takes practice between qb and wr's.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:54 pm to thunderbird1100
It's about an OC diagnosing what defenses primarily play/do in the red zone and "utilize"(schematically and route wise to isolate a mismatch) with personnel to attack the defense. If the defense likes to play man, you damn right I'm taking a shot at you with a 6'5" wr on a 5'11" cb.
Posted on 12/6/18 at 3:55 pm to Mr6daveyobrians
We threw at least one that was picked in the latter part of the season.
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