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re: Signs (aka facts) Point to a Collapse
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:14 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:14 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
Read this: LINK
And put a tampon in. For this who don’t click the link ...
Keep the Faith, and show up loud and ready to obliterate Syracuse on Saturday.
In!
And put a tampon in. For this who don’t click the link ...
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Historic or No, It Only Counts Once However, there’s also some encouraging results in that chart of comparables. Both Les Miles and Nick Saban lost their first SEC games at LSU. Les let a huge lead slip away in an eventual overtime loss to Tennessee.
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Even more encouraging, Saban lost by 17 to Auburn. He would follow this game up with a now infamous loss to UAB. LSU would rally for a win over Tennessee, but then would get their doors blown off by Florida, 41-9. Saban would go 1-3 in this stretch. His defense would allowed 30 points to every SEC team in this stretch, and the offense only scored above 17 points once, the 38-point explosion against Tennessee.
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LSU would win 5 of their next 6 games, including the Peach Bowl. LSU would win the SEC title the following year, and the national title in Year Four of his tenure. Sometimes, a loss is just a loss.
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Many coaches lose in embarrassing fashion in their first year at a new gig, and it’s no indictment on their abilities:
Dabo Swinney lost three of his first five games after having the interim tag pulled off at Clemson, capping off that run with a loss to Maryland.
Paul Chryst lost his Big Ten opener to Iowa, a month after getting whollopped by Alabama in the season opener by 18. He won the Big Ten West the next two years.
James Franklin won two Big Ten games his first year at Penn State, mainly because he got to play Rutgers and Indiana. He was another coach to lose to Maryland in his first season.
Clay Helton got the interim tag lifted at USC in 2016, and promptly lost to Alabama by 46 points. He followed it up with losses in his first two conference games. USC hasn’t lost since.
Mike Gundy went 4-7 his first year at Oklahoma St in 2005, and only won one conference game. He lost to Colorado by 34, Texas A&M by 39, and Iowa St by 27.
Chris Petersen went 8-6 his first year at Washington despite a preseason top 25 ranking, qualifying for a bowl game only because Washington managed to beat Hawaii by a single point.
Jim Harbaugh lost his first game at Michigan 24-17 to Utah. Later that year, he’d guide Michigan to a win over Ohio St and its first 10 win season in five years.
You get the point. That’s the current coaches at virtually the entire top 10 right now. Bad losses didn’t derail them.
This isn’t a career ending loss. It’s not even season ending. Much like that pass interference call in the first quarter, you’ve got to get over it.
Keep the Faith, and show up loud and ready to obliterate Syracuse on Saturday.
In!
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Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:16 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
We don't know if LSU will rise from the ashes, collapse, or something in between but what gets me is (and I'm not speaking about the OP just a lot of people on this board in general) all the tards making ridiculous claims last week about how great LSU was, and how stupid Herbstreet is, and how no one is gonna score more than 14 puts on our defense, are some of the same tards that this week think the LSU football apocalypse is upon us.
TO ALL YOU TARDS: You were very wrong last week, and I'm suppose to believe all of a sudden you know WTF you're talking about now when you say we're horrible and incompetent? No, sorry, you don't get to do this. You blew it last week when you crowned LSU after wins over BYU and Chatt,and here you are overreacting again
TO ALL YOU TARDS: You were very wrong last week, and I'm suppose to believe all of a sudden you know WTF you're talking about now when you say we're horrible and incompetent? No, sorry, you don't get to do this. You blew it last week when you crowned LSU after wins over BYU and Chatt,and here you are overreacting again
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:17 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
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QB recruiting drama, D. Craig, the Arden Key sage, beef with HS coaches, transfers, transfers and more transfers, player dismissals, media blackout of camp, new practice ways that obviously hasnt worked, Jacoby Stevens mismanagement, ton of player suspensions, not showing anything the first two games, being blown out to MSU, not running 4 WR sets until down by 30 on road and now as of yesterday Guice Range Rover gate and even more Jacoby Stevens mismanagement. That's just all the stuff I can think of off the top of my head. It's just too much to ignore.
How many coaches that you know of, when taking over their first program, didn't have these same problems.
Does Tennessee, Florida, Auburn, Georgia, South Carolina. Have any of those problems?
How about Saban when he came to LSU. Why did Trev Faulk leave early?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:22 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
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QB recruiting drama
I don't really see any drama, we got both guys. why should it be surprising that a kid thinks about it a little longer when the coaching staff that recruited him gets fired.
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D. Craig
Coaches get fired. The FACT is that he got out worked for the guys he was recruiting.
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the Arden Key sage
Should he have kicked him off the team? Cuz you also said transfers and dismissals are a problem. Key had an issue whether it was drugs or a baby or that he needed time away from the limelight or whatever, CEO got him the help he needed.
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beef with HS coaches
Was completely made up. The so called meeting was never planned.
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transfers, transfers and more transfers
Players often transfer when there is a coaching change but if you were paying attention, the transfer flood gate was opened during CLM's tenure. Plenty of guys left before CEO was ever in charge.
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player dismissals
Should we keep players on the roster that can't follow the rules or the law?
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media blackout of camp
When installing a new offense, why would anyone allow outside eyes to criticize the team when they are working out the kinks?
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new practice ways that obviously hasnt worked
How do you know they don't work? cuz we lost one game? what MSU is a top 10 team? what if we just arent that good? I think its a mixture of both. None of our seniors chose to come back over going to the NFL because none of them are very good. The only Jrs that are any good are Key, Guice, Brumfield and Clapp. The rest are all subpar. All our best players are Freshman and Sophmore.
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Jacoby Stevens mismanagement
How was this a mismanagement? First off it was Jacoby's choice to move to WR and he is free to move back whenever he wants. Secondly, he wouldnt be playing on defense either.
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ton of player suspensions
This is a result of CLM letting his players have free reign. This is nothing but CEO letting the players know that there is a new sheriff in town and that things are gonna change.
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not showing anything the first two games
This is a legitimate gripe. We should have practiced some of our new stuff in easy games so that it would be better executed against the better teams.
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being blown out to MSU
Again, at this point how do you know that MSU isnt a top 10 team. They sure looked pretty stout to me last Saturday night. Time will tell but at this point, we dont know that MSU isn't just that good or if we just are that bad.
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not running 4 WR sets until down by 30 on road
This is also a legit gripe. We have the WRs, let them play. Steve Spurrier was quoted in the late 90's telling his OC about stud player that if he doesn't know all the plays, then teach him one play and we can start there but by God get him in the game.
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Guice Range Rover gate
I'm sure CEO had a talk with him about responsible Social media use. I dont see how you can fault the coach on that one. Even Saban's players post pics of their Chargers.
There are legit things to gripe about and most of the stuff you pointed out arent them.
1)why do we keep an OL coach that can;t recruit or develop OT's? its been his MO since he was at Auburn in 2010.
2)Why not let our Specimen of WRs play?
3)Why did we bring Lawrence to MSU knowing he can't play and leave Justin Thomas at home knowing we have depth issues?
4) why are all our running plays right up the middle? why can't we give guice the ball on an outside zone play?
These are all legit questions.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:25 pm to Bert Macklin FBI
Could it be that they still haven't displayed the ability to grasp the new system? I'm talking about all phases of the game–the lines, the WRs....etc
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:26 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
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keepitrealgoeswrong
You want us to start a petition to get your original username unbanned?
Posted on 9/21/17 at 12:27 pm to eddieray
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We don't know if LSU will rise from the ashes, collapse, or something in between but what gets me is (and I'm not speaking about the OP just a lot of people on this board in general) all the tards making ridiculous claims last week about how great LSU was, and how stupid Herbstreet is, and how no one is gonna score more than 14 puts on our defense, are some of the same tards that this week think the LSU football apocalypse is upon us.
TO ALL YOU TARDS: You were very wrong last week, and I'm suppose to believe all of a sudden you know WTF you're talking about now when you say we're horrible and incompetent? No, sorry, you don't get to do this. You blew it last week when you crowned LSU after wins over BYU and Chatt,and here you are overreacting again
Everything Eddie Said!
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:04 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:34 pm to eddieray
quote:"Don't pick against LSU"! But, Barrett Sallee looking more and more like a genius every year...
how great LSU was, and how stupid Herbstreet is, and how no one is gonna score more than 14 puts on our defense,
Posted on 9/21/17 at 1:39 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
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keepitrealgoeswrong
Boy you aint lying
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:08 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
We all believe what we want, but to me, I think the defensive breakdowns are correctable, especially once we get a couple of the linemen back. Offense, on the other hand, looks really bad. The offensive scheme seems quite limited and the team seems unable to come back from any real deficit. 37 points allowed is bad, 7 points scored is terrible. The passing game seems as bad as ever and the run seems worse than usual.
But a collapse? Not yet. Even a bad year can be fixed with the right mix of recruits and improved coaching. I think that Mr. Canada needs to earn his money. To me, the offense was better under the Tight ends coach.
But a collapse? Not yet. Even a bad year can be fixed with the right mix of recruits and improved coaching. I think that Mr. Canada needs to earn his money. To me, the offense was better under the Tight ends coach.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:19 pm to roygu
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How many coaches that you know of, when taking over their first program, didn't have these same problems.
Ummmmm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:29 pm to eddieray
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TO ALL YOU TARDS: You were very wrong last week, and I'm suppose to believe all of a sudden you know WTF you're talking about now when you say we're horrible and incompetent? No, sorry, you don't get to do this.
This!
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:33 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
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Jacoby Stevens mismanagement,
says who? rivals rankings? you dont know this to be true
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QB recruiting drama
we got our 2 targets
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the Arden Key sage
tigerdroppings made this a saga
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transfers and more transfers
happens anytime a staff is turned over
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media blackout of camp
sorry you didn't get your 25 second nola.com clips
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Guice Range Rover gate
did he say it was his car? jeez. chill nancy
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new practice ways
every fricking coach in america practices to his own way
this post cant be real.
yeah, we lost by 30, thats alarming. I'm concerned. but stop with the fricking theatrics you fricking crybaby
Posted on 9/21/17 at 2:56 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
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I no longer have confidence
I'm guessing you didn't have much to begin with. You sound rattled.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:28 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
It was just one game as of right now. Now if this pattern continues through the rest of the season, then yes indeed it's a problem and something to really worry about. Pretty much every team has off the field and behind the scene issues.
Again, as of right now today, it's just one game!
Again, as of right now today, it's just one game!
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:45 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
"Member since Sep 2017"
The only thing that I saw interesting.
The only thing that I saw interesting.
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:49 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
Quote: yesterday (Wednesday)
Thanks for letting me know today's (Thursday). I would've been so lost without you...
Thanks for letting me know today's (Thursday). I would've been so lost without you...
Posted on 9/21/17 at 3:51 pm to keepitrealgoeswrong
quote:little early to call Jacoby Stevens mismanagement. That is not a fact.
So everything I listed wasn't a fact? And we just didn't come off of a 30 point loss? And after such loss we still toying around with Jacoby
After all, he's only through his 3rd game, ever. He was, after all, as a recruit listed as a WR and S. He is a 5* with playmaker possibilities.
God forbid you move him around and play him situationally to get the ball in his hands... as a freshman, with 3 games (not years) under his belt.
I mean, shouldn't have ever "experimented" with Woodson, or LaMichael James, or Adoree Jackson. For gods sake, it's been 3 games. Should've figured out how to best use freshmen, and set it in stone, forever and ever... right?
Next catastrophe is they'll be asking him to play special teams. You know, like how they ruined Landry.
This post was edited on 9/21/17 at 3:54 pm
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