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Should NCAA require background checks on all potential scholarship athletes?

Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:11 pm
After reading about Guice and Davis, it's clear the NCAA and participating schools need to do more to protect every college student from becoming victims of violence. As a father of a daughter who recently graduated college, I'm infuriated that those two thugs were allowed to step on campus despite having a long history of doing criminal activity.

I pray for the many young ladies that were traumatized by these thugs and now have to live with that for the rest of their lives. I know LSU is not the only school to allow thugs onto its campus because of their athletic talents, but as a society we should demand more from our universities!

Is winning a stupid/meaningless game worth a child - possibly even your son or daughter - being traumatized for the rest of their life, while coaches, administrators and the NCAA cash in and look the other way?

The sad reality is this boils down to money. Winning at all costs fills the bank accounts of universities and means more money for all involved - except the victims. I hope every victim sues the university and the NCAA and wins millions and millions of dollars and forces strict new rules to protect all students and hold those in positions of authority - coaches, administrators, school presidents, etc. - criminally responsible for failing to do their jobs!

Just remember, the next victim could be your son, daughter, niece, nephew or even you!

Posted by soultoucher_lsu
Houston
Member since Feb 2017
275 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:15 pm to
and how many of these minors do u actually think have felonies
Posted by LSU Bayou Jim
Houma, LA
Member since Feb 2013
1005 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:16 pm to
If they were charged as juveniles then the check would likely be useless. Juvenile records are generally sealed.
Posted by RadarTiger
Member since Dec 2018
3297 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:17 pm to
I think an issue with that is, are you going to deny a kid the opportunity for a college education because he got in a fight in high school, etc.?

I know Devin White was in some type of legal trouble in high school, and he turned out to be a high character guy at LSU and the NFL.

I think the solution is put all athletes through domestic abuse classes (which they already do) and report all cases if they unfortunately happen.

You just cant stop all evil.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71620 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

Just remember, the next victim could be your son, daughter, niece, nephew or even you!


Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41915 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:22 pm to
That's racist
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260576 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:25 pm to
They need to end academic waivers, you would get rid of most behavioral issues with athletes.

This post was edited on 2/7/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Mr Clean
New Iberia
Member since Aug 2006
49272 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

Just remember, the next victim could be your son, daughter, niece, nephew or even you!


My pit bull will protect me
Posted by Choupiqueboy
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2019
1626 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 2:41 pm to
HELL YES!!!

But Nick Saban is Stalin-Redux and his amoral outlook will have Gumpastan EXEMPT!!!
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 3:08 pm to
There’s a lot a dumb posts on this site, but this may be the dumbest.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4012 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

After reading about Guice and Davis, it's clear the NCAA and participating schools need to do more to protect every college student from becoming victims of violence. As a father of a daughter who recently graduated college, I'm infuriated that those two thugs were allowed to step on campus despite having a long history of doing criminal activity.

I pray for the many young ladies that were traumatized by these thugs and now have to live with that for the rest of their lives. I know LSU is not the only school to allow thugs onto its campus because of their athletic talents, but as a society we should demand more from our universities!

Is winning a stupid/meaningless game worth a child - possibly even your son or daughter - being traumatized for the rest of their life, while coaches, administrators and the NCAA cash in and look the other way?

The sad reality is this boils down to money. Winning at all costs fills the bank accounts of universities and means more money for all involved - except the victims. I hope every victim sues the university and the NCAA and wins millions and millions of dollars and forces strict new rules to protect all students and hold those in positions of authority - coaches, administrators, school presidents, etc. - criminally responsible for failing to do their jobs!

Just remember, the next victim could be your son, daughter, niece, nephew or even you!


Should they do it for all kids admitted into College who get academic scholarships or Tops? This seems quite frankly like a stupid az.... idea and one that clearly is a differential treatment under the Law.

Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1063 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 3:59 pm to
I think it would be more important to teach incoming girls about what to do in these situations, before, during, and after any events
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11983 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Just remember, the next victim could be your son, daughter, niece, nephew or even you!



If my daughter asked her friend to fix her up with a date with a known thug/sex abuser, then got drunk and passed out, I would be more concerned with her behavior.
If he carjacked or kidnapped her, that is another story.
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 5:08 pm to
I absolutely agree, but it will never happen because it's become too much of money maker. College football has absolutely nothing to do with college, unfortunately.
Posted by Smell the crawfish
In enemy territory
Member since Nov 2018
1542 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 5:09 pm to
I figured there would be one DA that had to make about race! Typical Democrat!
Posted by GorgeousGeorge
Nola
Member since Jul 2014
1989 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 5:18 pm to
The answer to this is “No”. Get off your high horse. Most of the perpetrators of assault probably don’t have a record coming into school anyway. Guys come into school with a record for offenses that are nothing close to rape - drugs, getting in a fight, underage drinking etc. I know I had a few beers and smoked some pot in high school. I still graduated from LSU and didn’t rape anybody.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41915 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 6:54 pm to
quote:

figured there would be one DA that had to make about race! Typical Democrat!




Yeah, you got me
Posted by Geaux2LSU
Member since Sep 2012
921 posts
Posted on 2/7/21 at 9:55 pm to
I wish the Rant would require background checks for mental retardation. Smh
Posted by Jet Sweep
Member since Dec 2020
232 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 8:37 am to
This article is way out their, coaches recruit you from the ninth grade trust me if you fart they know about it . And who is going to be the judge and jury on this to decide that you get enrolled leave well enough alone you will have more law suites in your hands .
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12898 posts
Posted on 2/8/21 at 5:21 pm to
While I can kinda sorta see the why of what you are saying here, the how is, in agreement with others here, is really dumb. For several reasons.

I will say that evaluation of such things, the why you are after, is part of the recruiters job.

It is a recruiter's job to dig into the recruit a little. And while a background check for almost all violations as a minor won't turn up jack, visiting with a kid (and his parents) will tell you more. So you can get a "feel" for it during the recruitment in many, certainly not all, cases.

Now, will this be a reason to not recruit a kid? In almost all cases- NO. So no matter if it is your background check or finding out some bad things sitting in their living room a kid probably isn't going to be denied that chance.

All you'll get is a hint to be watching, just in case. Even then, you still have to act on it later if it does turn out to be a bad apple that hasn't changed his ways.

As a coach who is committed to getting the best players, not the best citizens, as the system demands of you- you will always be reacting to such bad apples. Nothing you do, or can do, will be preventative.
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