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re: Should Milazzo get a start before Neal?

Posted on 3/12/23 at 5:47 pm to
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 5:47 pm to
I have caught recreationally, but some chump that does it for a game vs a guy that is a career catcher like Brady Neal is quite different.

These guys are a different breed and conditioned for this.


Micah Gibbs caught 127g between 2009-2010. He started 94% of LSU's games.

Papierski was alost stalwart in 2017.


Yes it is a tough, physical position but its not the grind of a MLB season. You catch a few games and you get to rest & recharge.

You don't catch-catch-catch-travel-catch-catch night game-catch daygame-travel-catch-catch-catch
Posted by QB
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:06 pm to
Hard to say no with Milazzo's production at the plate. Neal looking more like last year's Millazzo
Posted by ChiefCornerstone
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:19 pm to
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Neal hasn't done anything defensively to hurt LSU.

Yes and no. Neal is no where near the polished catcher Milazzo is. He’s sailed/underthrown a few throws to first and second. With our schedule so far, it hasn’t hurt us. Don’t get me wrong, it hasn’t been that often. But no one can argue how easy our schedule has been so far/how hard it’s about to be and knowing that Neal is a freshman, say he’s the best catcher. We don’t know.

My understanding is everyone feels Neal is starting because his batting is better. If that’s the case, I’d rather start the upper level defensive catcher in Milazzo rather than a true freshman for SEC play in lieu of our current lineup. That’s all.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:21 pm to
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Neal looking more like last year's Millazzo


Lol wut?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:24 pm to
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and knowing that Neal is a freshman, say he’s the best catcher. We don’t know.


Everyone knows Neal is better. Except for a few doofuses on here. Jay Johnson has not budged or shied away from that at all.
Posted by ChiefCornerstone
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:26 pm to
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"Makes no sense to me"? CJJ was quoted in the paper this week....yesterday??....as saying that BN is one of the best catcher players in the country There's not freshman around campuses right now who can do what he can do.. What we are seeing is Milazzo's production during a few at bats so far. CJJ has been evaluating him since this Fall. I'll take his professional evaluation over anyone 's here.

I don’t put much weight in coachspeak. And that’s what that is pure and simple. It’s fair to say there’s not another FRESHMAN in the country who can do what Neal can do (catching and batting). It’s also fair to say there’s not another catcher AT ANY LEVEL of college who can catch like Milazzo can. I know announcers like Ben McDonald are homers to some extent, but his discussion of Milazzo’s defensive abilities the other day was as “professional” as any I’ve heard. It’s just my opinion.
Posted by LSBoosie
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:39 pm to
Just because it’s not as grueling as an MLB schedule doesn’t mean it’s still not tough for a 17 year old who is in his 2nd semester of college to adjust to. You don’t know how his body can handle catching 4 games a week any better than anyone else on here. I’m sure he feels fine now a month into the season when he’s only had to catch 6 innings a game. I’m not sure he’ll feel the same 2 months from now.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:40 pm to
How old does he have to be before we stop calling him a 17 year old?
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:41 pm to
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It’s also fair to say there’s not another catcher AT ANY LEVEL of college who can catch like Milazzo can.
Can you name 5 other catchers?
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:42 pm to
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How old does he have to be before we stop calling him a 17 year old?



For real
Posted by LSBoosie
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 6:43 pm to
Apologies. He is 18. Either way, he’d normally still be playing high school ball right now. My point still stands.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 7:07 pm to
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Milazzo should start Tuesday to give Neal a little rest and a little more study time heading in to SEC play


I'm one of the biggest Milazzo supporters there is on here. I was assuming that we would lose a good bit defensively with Neal, while losing a good bit offensively with Milazzo. And given the lineup we had, I was thinking Johnson would be more willing to give up the offensive part. I was just pointing out that I think Neal has been good enough defensively that we aren't losing out on as much as I thought.

The biggest surprise of the year for me has been Milazzo's lack of playing time. I know he's played, mostly as a defensive sub, with some blow out ABs. I was expecting more of a 50/50 split in starts until there was some separation. Clearly that separation was seen by JJ in practice though.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 7:13 pm
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 7:10 pm to
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It’s also fair to say there’s not another catcher AT ANY LEVEL of college who can catch like Milazzo can.


Why do people keep saying this without expecting to be checked on it?

Milazzo is a very good catcher, but LOL at people out here acting like he's some pitcher whisperer.

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I know announcers like Ben McDonald are homers to some extent,


Ben is particularly homer-ish for Milazzo considering he coached him in travel ball. Not to say that what Ben says can't be true, but he's a "homer" beyond just being the local broadcaster in that instance.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 7:12 pm to
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Spoken from someone who has never caught, obviously


There is no point in discussing this with him. He beat his chest for hours about Neal needing to play over Milazzo. It's one of his rare wins, so he's going to ride it out. That's why I said earlier, you can bet your arse off that if Milazzo would be starting, with Neal's exact numbers, and Neal will be the replacement with Milazzo's numbers, he would be banging his fist against the table in every thread telling you Neal deserves more opportunities. But since it's Milazzo his argument is that the sample size is too small.
Posted by Knuckle Checker
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 7:33 pm to
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Last year, absolutely I’d start Neal over Milazzo. With this year’s lineup, why not put your proven defensive catcher back there on Friday night SEC games?


Because we are trying to build a championship roster to win in June. Neal has a higher ceiling so giving him a chance to develop over this season is well worth it. A guy like him settling in can be the difference between a championship or not. Milazzo isn’t going anywhere.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 7:40 pm to
25% of the season has gone by and every time you mention Neal vs milazzo it’s one more time than I have. It’s not that big of a deal. Curb youe insecurity for everyone that has to read your crybaby shite
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 7:50 pm to
Lester don’t argue with these fools, they don’t know ball like you. And you caught recreationally. I bet none of them can say that.
Posted by Hold That Tiger 10
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 7:51 pm to
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Lester don’t argue with these fools, they don’t know ball like you. And you caught recreationally. I bet none of them can say that.


I see what you did there. A+


I'm just glad he was here to let us know what Johnson really meant about Dugas only being able to make routine plays. That has been proven to be absolutely correct.
This post was edited on 3/12/23 at 7:53 pm
Posted by ChiefCornerstone
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:11 pm to
That’s fair. I can’t disagree with you. We know what we have with Milazzo. Neal certainly needs reps to get better. Only time will tell how good he is defensively against SEC teams. Reps know can only help.
Posted by ChiefCornerstone
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2022
322 posts
Posted on 3/12/23 at 8:14 pm to
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I'm one of the biggest Milazzo supporters there is on here. I was assuming that we would lose a good bit defensively with Neal, while losing a good bit offensively with Milazzo. And given the lineup we had, I was thinking Johnson would be more willing to give up the offensive part. I was just pointing out that I think Neal has been good enough defensively that we aren't losing out on as much as I thought. The biggest surprise of the year for me has been Milazzo's lack of playing time. I know he's played, mostly as a defensive sub, with some blow out ABs. I was expecting more of a 50/50 split in starts until there was some separation. Clearly that separation was seen by JJ in practice though.

Agree. I wonder if Milazzo’s injury is still bothering him.
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