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re: Shimpf to DH?

Posted on 4/22/09 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by IM4LSU2
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 12:43 pm to
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while i do agree DJ looked a bit uncomfartable, he still made all the plays that he needed to and if this infield sticks, comfort will come with time...he is such a gifted infielder that i believe he will be fine


DJ is by far my favorite player and I have no doubt that he can be great at 2B because of his talent. I was just commenting on something I observed.

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Schimpf played outfield his first year and is better than Dean. Nola is supposedly our best glove and Mainieri raves about him.

17 DPs in 30 games before last night. 3 last night. Coincidence? Only time will tell.


I remember Ryan playing I think it was in RF his first year and he did a great job. However, I sit in front of the visting teams bullpen and he seemed lost last night. I think Ryan is a very good 2nd baseman and the errors this past weekend were not characteristic of him. Everyone makes mistakes. Do I know the solution? No, and thankfully I'm not the coach and don't have to make the decision because it seems like it is a very difficult one.
Posted by LSU1018
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:11 pm to
I think the move is good for DJ b/c second is more than likely the position that he will play in the majors b/c he doesn't have the arm for ss at the next level.


Dean should stay at DH and leave RS in the outfield. Give him a few more practices and games there and he will be fine. Our other 2 outfielders can pretty much cover the whole outfield anyway.
Posted by PetTiger
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:17 pm to
I think the main thing to mention here is we took Landry out of the lineup. To me this was a bigger reason for the switch. In order to get the next best bat (Nola) in the lineup we had to shuffle defensively. And of the infielders, Schimpf is the only one that can play outfield, IMO.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61878 posts
Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:18 pm to
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That ball popped down the left field line early in the game should have been caught for sure.


They said he was shifted well in to Left Center field and had a longer than normal run.

Shimpf has more range than Dean (the guy who would replace him in the field) by a lot.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:21 pm to
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I think the move is good for DJ b/c second is more than likely the position that he will play in the majors b/c he doesn't have the arm for ss at the next level.


DJ has amazing range but he just cant get the ball to 1st fast enough when he makes those plays. Nola has a cannon. So this makes sense.

What is interesting about RS moving is that just a few weeks ago BA author was proclaiming LSU had the best linup up the middle in college baseball with Gibs, DJ, RS, and Landry.. Now of those players only one is still in the same position.
Posted by Colonel Ticonderoga
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:21 pm to
Give Shimpf a little more time to work out the rust in left field before putting him out to pasture.
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:25 pm to
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If that's the case, then put Schimpf back at 2B


That defeats the purpose of improving the middle infield by getting Nola in the game. These are Mainieri's own words.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:40 pm to
I think for any of this to work out, Nola is going to have to hit the ball. I see him being a much more solid hitter than Landry. Landry would either hit a homerun or strikeout.
Posted by IM4LSU2
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:47 pm to
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If that's the case, then put Schimpf back at 2B

That defeats the purpose of improving the middle infield by getting Nola in the game. These are Mainieri's own words.


I only made the comment in response to someone else who stated that one of the reasons for Nola in the lineup was because he was right-handed.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:50 pm to
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I only made the comment in response to someone else who stated that one of the reasons for Nola in the lineup was because he was right-handed.


It's definitely a plus for this team. An extra right handed bat helps a lot.

But, Mainieri likes Nola at SS and Lemahieu at 2B, more than either with Shimpf. That's a fact that you can not ignore.

To me (based on a single game admittedly), Nola looks like a better defensive SS than Lemahieu.
Posted by josh336
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:52 pm to
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I only made the comment in response to someone else who stated that one of the reasons for Nola in the lineup was because he was right-handed

Mainieri stated it was one of the reasons they did this before the game yesterday
Posted by josh336
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:56 pm to
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josh, dj not playing on the infield would be retarded.

Are you telling me you think Lemahieu is a better 2nd basemen than Schimpf?
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:58 pm to
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Let's see. No errors and 3 double plays. We're last in the SEC with 17 DPs. I'm thinking it's just you.

You saying Schimpf was the cause of the lack of the DPs? I think if anything it was Lemahieu, because we have turned O, that's right, no 6-4-3 double plays this season. We did have some 4-6-3 double plays. I realize alot of it is luck/unluck, like last night was luck. But DJ does drop some grounders.
Posted by LSU1018
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 1:59 pm to
In the long run, Definitely. RS may be a little better at this point but DJ has way more potential at 2nd.
Posted by josh336
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 2:01 pm to
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RS may be a little better at this point but DJ has way more potential at 2nd.

the question is, who will play better at that position for the rest of the season, that's it. Chances are Lemahieu won't be here next season anyways.
Posted by LSU1018
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
7360 posts
Posted on 4/22/09 at 2:05 pm to
I still don't see how you think putting DJ at DH would be better for the team. That has to be one of the dumbest things I have heard. So you are saying that you think that Dean in the OF, RS at second is better than RS in the outfield and DJ at second? That's crazy
Posted by TigerCub
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 4/22/09 at 2:09 pm to
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I think the move is good for DJ b/c second is more than likely the position that he will play in the majors b/c he doesn't have the arm for ss at the next level.


While I completely agree with you, I heard that DJ doesn't think so and wasn't exactly receptive to the idea.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9162 posts
Posted on 4/22/09 at 2:10 pm to
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You saying Schimpf was the cause of the lack of the DPs? I think if anything it was Lemahieu, because we have turned O, that's right, no 6-4-3 double plays this season. We did have some 4-6-3 double plays. I realize alot of it is luck/unluck, like last night was luck. But DJ does drop some grounders.

Did I say it was Schimpf? Mainieri thinks Nola is a going to be a super SS. LeMahieu is going to be a high MLB draft pick and will likely be moved to 2nd anyway. It makes all the sense in the world to play Nola at SS and move LeMahieu at 2nd.

That leaves Schimpf as the odd man out on the infield. You can call it luck or whatever, but we had 3 last night. Too bad we didn't have any luck the first 30 games.
Posted by ScottieP
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
1933 posts
Posted on 4/22/09 at 2:13 pm to
Why not put Schimpf and DJ back at 2nd and SS. Those two could have made every play last night just as well as DJ and Nola did. If you want Nola in the order for his bat leave J Mitch in left, Mahtook in center and put Dean in right with Nola as DH. That way everyone is in their original position with the only change being Mahtook and Dean with Landry out completely.

I know we have not turned many double plays this year and we did last night with the new lineup but our defense has been good all year(except Sat vs Tenn).

I would like to see how our strikeouts this year stack up to last year. It just seems we are striking people out more (about 10-12 a game)this year thus the lack of double plays. Last night I think our pitchers has 6 K's, with 17 hits the possibilty of double plays increased.
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9162 posts
Posted on 4/22/09 at 2:17 pm to
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Dean in right

There is a reason he doesn't play much in the outfield. He's slow and doesn't have a strong arm.
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