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Doubtful they will even approach $2.5-mm... I wouldn't expect him to get near $1.4-mm unless they really want him. Which I am betting they don't since they picked him up with their 2nd pick. It was likely a best available type pick.

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Exceed slot by anything more than 5 percent, and then the real penalties kick in, starting with the loss of a first-round pick in the next draft. They get precipitously steeper from there, with an overage of more than 15 percent resulting in the loss of two first-round picks.

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how does TAMU get the SEC interest in the Big East markets?

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They don't. I never said they do. I said adding TAMU would increase the viewing market (population) by 42% and that I would rather watch a TAMU game over a WVU game. The key word is I... The main argument with the regions I made was that adding FSU would be worth more due to its national following than adding Missouri to get the entire Missouri market.

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why does the market size matter if few people in those huge markets watch CFB?

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Because during the contract negotiations, it is impossible to know the ratings. The only thing you can do is look at potential. The better the product (SEC games) in a larger market will project better. Again, THIS IS INSIDE OF A MARKET THAT DOESN'T HAVE A GAME AT THAT SAME TIME SLOT. It may only happen a handful of times a year, but that time in the year is up for grabs. Wouldn't you rather get it than someone else. If you have Missouri in that slot, the SEC probably doesn't gain anything. FSU is a different story.

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but i was discsusing the "market impact on regional games" for TAMU (since we don't know the 2nd team)

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And my original post you questioned was directed at someone else discussing how adding FSU would not provide much gain in TV revenue over say a Missouri...

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compelling or not, the games will still likely come down to region

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I completely agree, but the region in the given example typically doesn't have a regional game to televise at that time slot. You asked for an example and I provided one that happens weekly.

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esp in vastly foreign markets this expansion won't touch (west coast, upper east coast)

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I disagree. Again, look at the example. It makes sense to me. Maybe I am missing something...

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i don't think ESPN will like CBS pushing for more night games, as that will cut into the ESPN bottom line

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Totally agree, but CBS is planning on adding a second primetime SEC game this year. It will definitely cut into the ESPN telecast in primetime on ABC.

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but on saturdays, there are only so many games.

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Couldn't agree more. However, would you agree within that finite number of slots there is competition between the conferences to get their games on TV?

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then at least 1 SEC at night (on ESPN/2), with 2 often. this compliments the CBS day game.

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Aren't there typically 3 SEC games on ESPN networks typically? There is the 6:45 time slot on ESPN, a 7:45 time slot on ESPN 2 and isn't there a 6:30 time slot on ESPN U that usually show SEC games?

Isn't it safe to say that adding a national brand (FSU) is better than Missouri and to a lesser degree VaTech? I would think that would give you more bargaining power when the time came to negotiate. With that type of addition, it is far more likely to have compelling match-ups that will draw larger TV shares with higher profile universities.

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link me to an example of ESPN showing regional options, please

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ESPN 2011 CFB Game Schedule

See the fourth bullet in the "College Football on Additional ESPN Platforms" section.

Also, see this link as an example from last year. While this shows the majority of the games reverse simulcast on ABC & ESPN. Like you mentioned...

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ABC does regional broadcasts

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which is an ESPN broadcast... So...

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The "regional games" that ESPN shows are only shown within the geographic area of the conference.

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still applies.

On another note, how did parts of upstate NY and eastern Massachusetts get lumped into the southeastern US region?

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The idea of adding media markets is a little strange in that CBS/ESPN broadcast nationally. There aren't any media markets for SEC to expand into that don't already have CBS/ESPN.

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Not all of the SEC games are shown nationally on ESPN. This is where adding the new markets comes into play. The "regional games" that ESPN shows are only shown within the geographic area of the conference. With the addition of TAMU, the region size increases within Texas (42% of current SEC population). The ad dollars would be sold, as would the contract for rights, on potential viewership.

The addition of FSU increases the likelihood of ESPN showing a "regional game" in the larger media markets with FSU fans. This would get SEC "regional games" broadcast in LA and NYC when given a choice over OU and Baylor where as now, if State & Kentucky are playing are playing, ESPN will show the OU v. Baylor game 4 out of 5 times. If it was FSU and Vandy, there might be a reason to show that game on the east coast as opposed to the OU game.

Did they say why Paxton quit?

A good site for college baseball scores.

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Aztecs (mascot)?

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Lobos

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jefferson flings ball 40 yds out of bounds.

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Out of the pocket...

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bama qb throws around his offensive lineman on direct track to ingram out of the backfield

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Threw it two handed while he was going down. Sure not trying to avoid a safety... GTFO.

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JJ was out of bounds at the time of "touching" so the "out of bounds" rule applies.

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Actually he was not. He was in the air. He hadn't landed outside the field of play yet. Just after his hands moved from behind the ball, he touched down out of bounds for the first time. You can clearly see this in the numerous videos on YouTube.

What song was played with the first half highlights last night? Thanks...