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re: Seriously…your opinion on why Kelly didn’t work out.

Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:54 am to
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
21460 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:54 am to
Lazy and ego got in the way. Also he still doesn’t understand the culture of LSU football
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
42783 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:58 am to
I think it may have been a couple of things.

1. He is still a "build the program first" type of coach, and that may hurt you in the current environment. You need to get good players via the transfer portal to fill holes and get young players to develop, and for depth. He actually moved a bit on that, but I think he didn't quite have that figured out yet, so talent always seemed spotty at one position group or another. I think this year was his best, though.

2. He whiffed on coordinator hires.

3. He doesn't deal with criticism well, and that colored public opinion pretty quickly. eventually the noise was too much to ignore.

4. I think he does not connect with players as a whole very well anymore.

5. I am not sure how engaged he was at LSU, but it seemed like he was not very engaged.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
112685 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 6:58 am to
Don't know enough about the inner workings, but from observation:

Stubborn and standoffish (public, media, players)

NIL/portal bit him in the arse and the natural advantages he thought he would have as LSU's HC didnt materialize.

Awful gameday coach - complete inability to make in game adjustments.

There's a reason ND has never joined a conference - and would certainly never join the SEC.
Posted by austiger
Austin
Member since Apr 2012
1024 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:00 am to
He's an elitist
Posted by wrongRob
Tampa FL
Member since Oct 2017
1302 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:08 am to
quote:

Seriously... your opinion on why Kelly didn't work out.
Pride as previously mentioned. Took on a shite show thinking what worked at his previous spots would work in the SEC.

FAFO the SEC is built different. That PAC12/Big10 game won't work here.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
4019 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:09 am to
Bad choices on coordinators
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
141533 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:11 am to
He never recovered from making those gay recruiting videos.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
7712 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:12 am to
He took the chief executive label too literally. There is not enough time or patience to be able to stand away from the details and hold folks accountable at a place like LSU in today’s college football landscape. Not sure that much of a hands off approach would have worked in the past either. Had nothing to do with cultural fit.
Posted by redbean5
Member since Jan 2008
2356 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:19 am to
Lazy and did not think he needed to be in the details on everyday preparation. I also believe Kelley looked down on LSU/SEC as being uneducated and not as intelligent as himself when it came to the knowledge of the game. He got too accustomed to his ND scheduling and only really had to prepare for a few games a year to win.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94794 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:21 am to
1. Overreliance on assistants and he made poor decisions on assistants, generally (not in all cases).

2. Reluctance to exploit the transfer portal until just this last cycle.

3. (Related to #2) - General failure to adapt to the modern, mercenary era of CFB

4. By most reports, relatively lazy for a HC in such a position - "banker's hours"

5. Hubris/arrogance - it is difficult to make constructive changes if you have doubts anything needs improvement

6. Poor cultural fit (cliches are cliches for a reason)

Posted by SOL2
Dallas burbs
Member since Jan 2020
8046 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:23 am to
big prick
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
6049 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:23 am to
1. Hiring Matt house
2. Letting Denbrock walk
3. Firing Raymond

He made great coordinator decisions at notre dame made poor ones here. That’s basically the story
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26106 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:26 am to
And I think it became obvious to Woodward that the team quit on Kelly. Once the team loses confidence the coach has to go.

Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
5048 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:28 am to
Alienation from some of his assistants. Players feed on that shite.

Poor output. Doesn't matter where it came from or how it came but poor qb/oline play.


Surprised tho being 5-3 and having 9 wins or more each season is crazy. He was a bad coach, he trusted some coaches he shouldn't have.


He struggled with his "own" Name, image and likeness. Kids have to know you love them and care about every single one of them first and foremost.
He will have much better repore coaching at a school in the north.
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 7:37 am
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26106 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:36 am to
We apologize for being dumb. Looking forward to your intelligent input.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
26106 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Ultimately, no incentive.
When you’re guaranteed something I think most lose a sense of purpose.


Yeah, I got the feeling that he thought talent would fall into his lap and that talent combined with his head coaching skills, he could be a championship competitor almost every year and that he could do that for the length of his contract and then retire rich if he wanted.
Posted by Bill W Tiger
LSU Alumnus
Member since May 2008
1708 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:42 am to
When mad and screaming....he looked like Sgt. Carter on Gomer Pyle show!
This post was edited on 10/28/25 at 7:43 am
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83175 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:43 am to
quote:

I think most of his previous experience was at smaller schools with exception of ND.


So not a valid point then bc he was at ND a long time
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56178 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 7:46 am to
Kelly was not the leader that we thought that he was

He was more of a CEO than he was a coach or a leader

He wanted to come in and bark at people and then go play golf. That’s an overgeneralization, but that appears to be the
Perhaps he’s tired and why things like hey, you guys are spoiled comes out of his heart during a press conference

He just wasn’t up for the job. That’s the bottom line.

The more I study the head coach at Tulane the more I like him…

He says all the right things, but he seems very genuine. He’s not a guy that’s pretending.

I believe he believes what he says, and tries to live by it

We need somebody who’s a good people person

Somebody who cares

Somebody who works hard

Somebody that knows football
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13337 posts
Posted on 10/28/25 at 8:14 am to
Bad fit but not what everyone is mentioning. I dont care you came from the birth but he made his name coaching Lilly white boys at notre dame.... the way to talk to, relate to and coach them up is miles different from how you do boys who had to make it out God awful situations in the deep south. He never seemed to connect with his players and in turn they never produced for him.

Add to this some of the most pernounced boomer stubbornness I've ever seen and you get...well...this
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