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Seeing A&M get Jimbo and Ark interview Leach shows how bad Alleva is. Alleva needs to go

Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9032 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:10 pm
There is something to be said about being all in for what you want. We had a chance for Herman, he wanted around 6 million for 5 years, but Alleva avoiding a bidding war with Texas allowed UT to name their price instead of at least making UT pay more for him. I'll never forget that rushed presser so Alleva could try to "save face." He was a coward. He put his own ego over what was best for LSU.

What did Arkansas do differently when their main target was off the table? They gathered themselves and moved down the list and interviewed Leach today. They don't even have an AD and they're doing better than Joe and Fking.

I hope Orgeron does well, and he righted the sinking ship this season, but boy he will be tested like never before next season. Alleva needs to be out if it doesn't work out.
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16845 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:17 pm to
Aleva has a Boss. How do you not know he was told to do things the way they turned out.

I personally believe his bosses screwed the Jimbo hire the first time. The second time I don't think LSU wanted to spend the money.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 11:21 pm
Posted by TigerJeff
the Emerald Coast
Member since Oct 2006
16356 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:17 pm to
You want Leach?
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22157 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:22 pm to
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You want Leach?


I think any rational person would take Leach over Orgeron every single day of the week.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:25 pm to
Wow
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24554 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:26 pm to
Say what you will about Jimbo but what he did this season was miraculous.

Nobody else could have ever done it.



He had a losing record 5-6 overall and 3-5 in his conference.

His biggest win was either a 7-point win over Duke or a 7-point win over Wake Forest.

He lost by 32 points to Boston College just a little over a month ago.


And became the second highest paid coach in college football.

That is fricking AMAZING. Aggies gonna Aggy.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24554 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:28 pm to
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I think any rational person would take Leach over Orgeron every single day of the week.


Sure why not, hire a guy that is ranked lower in every poll than your current coach.

Leach was fired from Texas Tech even though he was very successful there.
Posted by TigerOne
Member since Sep 2007
1944 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:32 pm to
Jimbo got a ship. What did O have? A sinking ship from Ole Miss. Jimbo got what he deserved.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:33 pm to
So you want Alleva to give Jimbo a guaranteed 10 year $75 million dollar contract or to hire a coach who was fired for abusing his former football players? Man son...you need to check yourself into the nearest psycho ward.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67932 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:35 pm to
Jimbo shite the bed this year and completely checked out but his track record shows he can put up solid teams with excellent QB play. Even without winston he was winning 10 games a year. From taking over a stale program, he improved them and won a national title and hauls in top classes every year. he has shown he knows what he is doing


Its a bit absurd to only look at this one year and not look at his overall body of work as a coach his entire career. I don't think he will win a national title at A&M but if he hires a competent Defensive coordinator he could make noise in the SEC. I think his offenses will be fine and he will improve QB play over at A&M.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 11:40 pm
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5536 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:37 pm to
Agreed, Alleva stole a 10-25 career HC who no one else wanted. That’s some ninja next level shite right there.

Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67932 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:38 pm to
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Sure why not, hire a guy that is ranked lower in every poll than your current coach.

Leach was fired from Texas Tech even though he was very successful there.




Are you really insinuating O is a better coach than Leach?

Leach has taken over trash programs and has them at an incredible level

From strictly a coaching perspective he is one of the best out there
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 11:45 pm
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:39 pm to
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I think any rational person would take Leach over Orgeron every single day of the week.

No thanks.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78666 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:39 pm to
You are under- selling Aleeva here. I have it on very good authority that he shuffles the paper on the left side of his desk to the right side of his desk with the effortless aplomb of a Russian figure skater . Mad skillz, y’all.
Posted by LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
2925 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:44 pm to
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Jimbo got a ship

With Jameis Winston and Jeremy Pruitt. By far the best QB in the country at the time and arguably the best DC in the country at the time. And probably the weakest ACC in 30 years where they played against a powerhouse Duke team in the ACC championship and Clemson was the only team in the final top 25 aside from FSU. The Jimbo love is out of control from our fans he’s not that good and he’ll be exposed at A&M just like Chavis was
Posted by GulfstreamTiger
Sondheimer Louisiana
Member since May 2017
796 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:46 pm to
Jimbo is overrated and certainly overpaid. Leach is just certifiable.

Alleva need not be blamed for anything here.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67932 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

Alleva need not be blamed for anything here.




Are you really saying there are no other coaches out there who were qualified besides Jimbo and herman? and apparently O...

This decision was pretty rushed and we literally did not have a competent search process.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10276 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

Jimbo got a ship. What did O have? A sinking ship from Ole Miss. Jimbo got what he deserved.


I'm not that impressed with Jimbo. He gave up 63 points to Louisville last year, while Orgeron beat them 29=9.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
15248 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:50 pm to
quote:

I think any rational person would take Leach over Orgeron every single day of the week.
any knee jerk reactionary person might. You don't understand the real world at all. Leach has a much higher ceiling, and I like Leach. His teams are entertaining. However, Leach is a loose cannon, wildcard coach. He's a better fit for Arky than LSU, but I'm confident Leach will not be nearly as stable as O, and Leach will somehow be entangled in some controversy before long.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10276 posts
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:52 pm to
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he’s not that good and he’ll be exposed at A&M just like Chavis was


That remains to be seen but yeah, Chavis was.
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