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re: SEC TOURNAMENT Champion goes to Cali and the runner up goes to ATL

Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:18 pm to
You're right about getting easy regionals, and I don't mind the travel to L.A., but it's the fact that Alabama gets an easier draw with less travel that bothers me.

I personally think the LSU storyline is played out on the national scene and does not garner the type of attention they're looking to get.

The more the Cinderella, the better. It won't hurt their feelings to not see a repeat. If LSU were to go deep into Omaha from their present standing, it only lessens national appeal.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:20 pm to
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Geography did


Poor argument this year given the numerous teams sent all over.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53464 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:21 pm to
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but it's the fact that Alabama gets an easier draw with less travel that bothers me.


I agree....2 teams in basically the same situation...and if you go head to head..we beat them 4x's this year.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53464 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:23 pm to
The way they do this baseball bracket is a joke.

It's not like basketball what so ever.

This is a 90% regional geographic tournament with a few teams traveling more than 8 hours.

Coastal Carolina - South Carolina
Auburn - Atlanta

You could go on and on...just example of all the Super Regional being regional.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36919 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:24 pm to
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Don't get the geography... the better team deserves the better site. Send Bama out West, they can ride a plane too.


It's simple. The main principle the NCAA uses is geography in setting up the regionals. Once the top seeds and hosts have been established, they then place as many teams as they can based on how many teams they can bus in, within 350 miles, NOT based on merit. Alabama can bus to Georgia Tech. LSU can't. If you flip-flop and send Alabama out west and LSU to Atlanta, you have 2 teams flying. The way it is, only one team is flying.

You can think it sucks all you want, but that is how they do it.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:24 pm to
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I agree....2 teams in basically the same situation...and if you go head to head..we beat them 4x's this year.


Exactly. The ONLY thing that differentiates is a flight. And you've got to be kidding me to say that Bama's Athletic Department needs to save money.

Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48784 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:25 pm to
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Beating them 4 times has nothing to do with it. Geography did. See above.


Yeah I am not buying this. If that is the case why was Cal sent to norman as the 2 seed? Why were they not sent to UCLA and LSU sent to norman?

Don't give me the arguement of UCLA and Cal being in the same conference, that shite aint gonna fly.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:26 pm to
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The way they do this baseball bracket is a joke.

It's not like basketball what so ever.

This is a 90% regional geographic tournament with a few teams traveling more than 8 hours.


You are right, and most of the rantards don't want to comprehend that. This is NOT like basketball. Basketball does an S-curve and seeds the teams basically 1-64. Baseball is all about placing teams in regionals nearby. Not everyone can play close to home, but they do as many as they can. It does not make for a fair bracket.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:26 pm to
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Alabama can bus to Georgia Tech. LSU can't.


We can ride a bus to Atlanta if we wanted to or needed to...bottom line is both athletic departments can afford either and would gladly support it.

Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:28 pm to
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You are right, and most of the rantards don't want to comprehend that.


I realize that, I'm arguing that the "350 mile rule" is irrelevant when you have two teams that can easily afford travel.


Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
71519 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:29 pm to
Certainly would have preferred GT over UCLA. UCLA park = 1,250 capacity and 3 days drive away (for me). GT park = 4,157 capacity and 25 minute drive away from me (when Im back home in ATL).
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36919 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:29 pm to
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We can ride a bus to Atlanta if we wanted to or needed to...bottom line is both athletic departments can afford either and would gladly support it.


The NCAA picks up the tab on post season travel. 350 miles is the cutoff on bus trips. It isn't like LSU can call the NCAA and say "hey, we are going to ride the bus, so put us in Atlanta
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
53464 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:30 pm to
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You are right, and most of the rantards don't want to comprehend that. This is NOT like basketball. Basketball does an S-curve and seeds the teams basically 1-64. Baseball is all about placing teams in regionals nearby. Not everyone can play close to home, but they do as many as they can. It does not make for a fair bracket.



You would think each year they could mix it up a little more, make it less obvious. The first weekend I would be okay with the "Geographic" pairings, but c'mon mix up the Super Regional weekend and make it a true tournament.
This post was edited on 5/31/10 at 12:31 pm
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24491 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:32 pm to
You don't really believe that, do you?

There are many examples to disprove this and I'm not researching them.

But, you probably believe the reason there is no playoffs in football is due to missed class time.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
36919 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:37 pm to
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You don't really believe that, do you?

There are many examples to disprove this and I'm not researching them.

But, you probably believe the reason there is no playoffs in football is due to missed class time.


Don't really believe what? No, not EVERY regional has 3 teams that can bus in. But they put AS MANY TEAMS AS POSSIBLE in regionals they can reach by bus. Sorry you aren't receptive to being educated about how the bracket is set up.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:37 pm to
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The NCAA picks up the tab on post season travel.


LINK

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And in fiscally lean times, the move from four regionals to two will add to costs for many teams. According to Sandoval, the NCAA provides no money for travel, housing or meals.
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
140704 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:41 pm to
The NCAA provides per diems. We got 50/day when we went in 1999 and got 45/day in 96.

Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
24491 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:45 pm to
Receptive to being educated on how the bracket is set up?

I'm fully aware it's a well defined system using a BCS type formula, where no politics come into play. It rivals our federal goverment in it's level of consistency.
Posted by RichT
Member since Dec 2009
16 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 12:47 pm to
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The NCAA is not known for using commin sense in seeding teams in regionals.


You realize that when you say the NCAA you're talking about a committee made up of representatives of member schools, right? No NCAA employees are involved in selection or seeding.

The make up of the committee changes annually so there is naturally inconsistancy in the results. There are guide lines but every person brings their own ideas as to what should happen. I seem to recall Skip Bertman serving on the baseball selection committee a few years back.
Posted by CaseyMc2
Louisiana Native
Member since Feb 2009
4092 posts
Posted on 5/31/10 at 1:02 pm to
LSU is getting paid back for all the times the West teams came here. There is no way the committee was going to make it easy for a repeat of last year when all of Rosenblatt was pulling for and was more LSU fans than any other teams combined. They did not want all these LSU fans being able to go to the games and out doing the home teams. We have more fans that travel to the games than the rest of them have fans attend for home games. So they had two choices either up at U Conn or out west in LA. so there you have it. They have said it before that they want College baseball spread around so that there are different teams every year playing for the NC than the year before.

LSU being the defending NC you would have thought that they would have taken that into considration but they did not, like beating Bama four times had no bearing so did the defending NC have no bearing. They made sure that not many fans can attend because of the size of the stadium 1250, and the distance to the games, also there is no ESPN for that regional either. That means out of site out of mind and into obscurity, hopefully no LSU for the closing of the old Rosenblatt and no Coonasses either. JMHO!
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