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re: SEC this morning spouting the party line
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:28 pm to flyingtexastiger
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:28 pm to flyingtexastiger
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Posted by flyingtexastiger online on 11/6/23 at 12:24 pm to Tha crook No reason to ask for an even playing field, huh??? Everybody else in the league deserves to spot Bama a TD or two even before the game starts.
That hit didn’t change the outcome of the game dude . Move on . Half our fan base are acting real beta after the loss . Man up and move on . There’s still more football games ahead
Posted on 11/6/23 at 12:53 pm to dallastiger55
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I listened to 5 podcasts since Saturday
Bruce Feldman
Stuart Mandel
Josh Pate
Andy Staples
Ari Wasserman
All said it was close but they didn’t think it was targeting and they see these plays every week
Fine.
This is now SOP for every Bama QB going forward.
And when the stripes call targeting, you run plays that just so happen to lay them out.
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:19 pm to vl100butch
Bama fans are all in that hitting the top of the shoulder pad and the facemask within one-one-thousandth of a second isn't hitting the "head or neck area", even if the hit to the facemask was with the crown of the head.
Sounds like they have a friend in Birmingham.
Sounds like they have a friend in Birmingham.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:42 pm to Tha crook
Look a-hole, your name says it all, "Tha Crook".
Nobody is saying the game outcome would've been changed, but maybe it would have been when you add up the Bama favoring officials calls or non-calls:
-holding call on a huge play flagged on Will Campbell (total BS)
-horse collar non-call on JDs long run (total BS)
-horse collar call on Harold Perkins (not total BS but not nearly as egregious as JDs long run)
-holding non-call when Harold Perkins was about to sack Bama QB and lineman was literally hugging Perkins (once again total BS)
ALL WE WANT IS A LEVEL playing field. Is that too much to ask???
Nobody is saying the game outcome would've been changed, but maybe it would have been when you add up the Bama favoring officials calls or non-calls:
-holding call on a huge play flagged on Will Campbell (total BS)
-horse collar non-call on JDs long run (total BS)
-horse collar call on Harold Perkins (not total BS but not nearly as egregious as JDs long run)
-holding non-call when Harold Perkins was about to sack Bama QB and lineman was literally hugging Perkins (once again total BS)
ALL WE WANT IS A LEVEL playing field. Is that too much to ask???
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:44 pm to mpwilging
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ALL WE WANT IS A LEVEL playing field. Is that too much to ask???
Against Bama in Tuscaloosa? I’m afraid so. Too much money involved.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:46 pm to vl100butch
its exactly the hit they are trying to outlaw
Posted on 11/6/23 at 1:59 pm to Tha crook
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That hit didn’t change the outcome of the game dude . Move on . Half our fan base are acting real beta after the loss . Man up and move on . There’s still more football games ahead
Nobody - NOBODY - is saying that the hit "changed the outcome of the game". I think the general consensus is that our JV-performance defense lost us the game.
That said, the hits (multiple!) on JD were obvious attempts to injure him, and neither resulted in ejections (though I believe they both should have caused Bama players to be tossed). And, even more obvious was that the refs weren't going to hold Bama to the same standards for penalties that they were inflicting on LSU.
Two different perspectives, my friend. Don't conflate them.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 2:14 pm to MOT
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Then it shouldn’t have been a penalty at all because it wasn’t late.
Learn the rules. You cant hit the QB like that when he is “defenseless.” That was why the flag was thrown.
You can bump him or push him as a result of incidental contact but you cant obliterate the player who cannot defend himself. Same goes for receivers.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 2:36 pm to vl100butch
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More specifically, Rule 9, Section 1, Articles 3 and 4 define targeting this way: "Targeting and Making Forcible Contact With the Crown of the Helmet ARTICLE 3. No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul. ..
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Targeting and Making Forcible Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting. When in question, it is a foul. ... Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indications of targeting (emphasis NCAA's) include but are not limited to: Launch-a player leaving his feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward thrust of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area A crouch followed by an upward and forward thrust to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet Note 2: Defenseless player (Rule 2-27-14). When in question, a player is defenseless. Examples of defenseless players include but are not limited to: A player in the act of or just after throwing a pass A receiver attempting to catch a forward pass or in position to receive a backward pass, or one who has completed a catch and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier A kicker in the act of or just after kicking a ball, or during the kick or the return A kick returner attempting to catch or recover a kick, or one who has completed a catch or recovery and has not had time to protect himself or has not clearly become a ball carrier A player on the ground A player obviously out of the play A player who receives a blind-side block A ball carrier already in the grasp of an opponent and whose forward progress has been stopped A quarterback any time after a change of possession a ball carrier who has obviously given himself up and is sliding feet first"
If you check any one of the boxes in rule above it is targeting. I count several that are not even debatable that occurrd on that play
Posted on 11/6/23 at 2:53 pm to GetmorewithLes
quote:I never said you could, maybe try reading it again.
Learn the rules. You cant hit the QB like that when he is “defenseless.”
quote:It was thrown because there was contact to the head and neck, per the referee. Hitting a defenseless player in the head or neck area is the definition of targeting. For the SEC to say it wasn’t targeting means they believe there actually wasn’t contact to the head or neck and the official on the field was wrong to call anything, or that the contact wasn’t forcible.
That was why the flag was thrown.
Or they’re just full of shite and going along with the mistake because Alabama.
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 11/6/23 at 2:58 pm to stephendomalley
Ole miss Alabama was pretty bad too.
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