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re: SEC leaning towards 1 division

Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:12 pm to
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If it's single, how could it be divided? Sankey is a dumbass

It's a division in the overall landscape of college football. NFL has divisions that aren't divided...
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:15 pm to
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I think the main scheduling principles are to ensure a quicker rotation through the entire league for all teams, and preserve historic rivals and have some geographic proximity for who a teams 3 defined permanent teams are.


Those are the underlying goals, but they are looking to maintain competitive balance and provide compelling game inventory for ESPN as well. They haven’t come out with any statements to that effect because they don’t want to limit themselves prior to getting a solution approved, but all the reports coming out of the discussions have indicated that.

I’m not disputing that Tennessee and Auburn are historically strong programs. It’s just that how good they were 50-75 years ago isn’t particularly relevant to competitive balance today. Tennessee is strong this year, but it’s really the first time they’ve been relevant in 15-20 years. That’s a very long period of decline to ignore in comparison to programs that have won multiple titles in the meantime. Auburn has a little stronger recent history, but it’s still not at the same level as LSU, Georgia, Florida or even Oklahoma.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 11:16 pm
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
98267 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:22 pm to
Bama will get Auburn, Tennessee and Vandy or Kentucky

Book it
Posted by moock blackjack
Member since Apr 2008
98267 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:23 pm to
LSU will get Ole Miss, A&M and Florida
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:30 pm to
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Bama will get Auburn, Tennessee and Vandy or Kentucky Book it


You think the other conference schools are going to vote to give Bama an easier path to the title than the other top programs?
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4058 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

This is a cream rises to the top model. No more Cinderella's like 2001 LSU.

quote:

Except for the 12 team playoff...and, BOOM.

2001 team is in.


Prior to the SEC Championship game, LSU was ranked 21 in the AP and not ranked in the BCS ranking release. If the two teams with the best records played in the SEC Championship, it would have been a rematch of FL-TN. So no BOOM.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2482 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 3:11 am to
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You think the other conference schools are going to vote to give Bama an easier path to the title than the other top programs?


You think this is up for a vote?
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23399 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 5:56 am to
This ruins seasons for middle of the pack teams. It is a bad idea meant only to help the top few.
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
Member since May 2022
1304 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:11 am to
You’re ignoring the fact that Bama will play Tenneseee and Auburn, two teams who have won national titles in the last 20+
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
Member since May 2022
1304 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:15 am to
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You think the other conference schools are going to vote to give Bama an easier path to the title than the other top programs?


Auburn has won a National championship and been to another this century. Tennessee won in 98 and is on the rise again.

Auburn, Tennessee, LSU would be the toughest draw out there. You’re delusional if you think Bama gets this
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64835 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:33 am to
Is he talking sixteen teams and only conference?
Posted by monsterballads
Make LSU Great Again
Member since Jun 2013
29272 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 6:42 am to
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will ultimately want to do away with a championship game


there is NO way sankey gets rid of the SECCG
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:02 am to
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You think this is up for a vote?


Yes, I do. Any change like this requires approval by member institutions. Why do you think it’s taking so long to decide?
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:03 am to
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Auburn, Tennessee, LSU would be the toughest draw out there. You’re delusional if you think Bama gets this


But Auburn, Georgia, LSU for Florida would be okay?
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
Member since May 2022
1304 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:09 am to
You don’t know that would be Floridas draw. You also act like life is fair.

Someone will get screwed and I promise you it won’t be Alabama
This post was edited on 11/18/22 at 7:11 am
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:10 am to
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You’re ignoring the fact that Bama will play Tenneseee and Auburn, two teams who have won national titles in the last 20+


Before this year Tennessee has been irrelevant for 15-20 years. Auburn is up and down. Neither is anywhere near as consistently good as Georgia, LSU, Florida and Oklahoma have been in the present reality of what those programs are. It’s Bama’s choice to have two mid-level programs (relative to other programs in the new brutal SEC) as permanent opponents. That should not give them a free pass to avoid the strongest of the strong like everyone else at the top will have. If they want a bottom dweller, they’d have to give up Tennessee. Otherwise, yes, they’ll have a slightly tougher group of permanent opponents. They don’t get to choose to have it easier than the other regular contenders.
Posted by etm512
Mandeville, LA
Member since Aug 2005
20777 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:12 am to
People that like this will hate it when 2 teams end up playing each other in back to back weeks for the conference title (currently Mizzou-Arky is the only cross division final week game)
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
3069 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:14 am to
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You don’t know that would be Floridas draw. You also act like life is fair. Someone will get screwed and I promise you it won’t be Alabama


I’m only going by what YOU predicted. It’s completely inconsistent for you to think that’s a reasonable draw for Florida, then turn around and say it’s impossible for Bama to have a draw that’s easier than that. Given this is going to be decided by a vote of member institutions, Alabama is actually the most likely to get the toughest draw, which isn’t unreasonable given they are the strongest program currently. The other schools certainly aren’t going to make it easier for them than everyone else.
Posted by lsutigerelizabeth
Houma
Member since May 2022
1304 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:29 am to
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I’m only going by what YOU predicted. It’s completely inconsistent for you to think that’s a reasonable draw for Florida, then turn around and say it’s impossible for Bama to have a draw that’s easier than that. Given this is going to be decided by a vote of member institutions, Alabama is actually the most likely to get the toughest draw, which isn’t unreasonable given they are the strongest program currently. The other schools certainly aren’t going to make it easier for them than everyone else.


Are you a communism fan? They are 100% keeping the rivalry games which include Bama/Tennessee and Bama/Auburn which are historically tough matchups and will be so in the future. So they will give Alabama Mississippi State for their easy game.

Oklahoma is not going to be a “top 6” team in the SEC.

The number one goal of the permanent opponents is maintaining yearly rivalries, not “fairness”. You’re so wrong on all this that it hurts
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10187 posts
Posted on 11/18/22 at 7:34 am to
This is going to hurt Ole Miss' ability to hang banners...
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