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Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:04 am
Posted by BattinRouge11
River Side of Mag
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:04 am
Has anyone from League Offices ever gone on the record to deny the Bama bias in Birmingham? I mean, it's obviously there, but have they ever denied it or do they just work that way and we all agree to take it.

Herb Vincent must just be a masochist if he can show up happy to work every day.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:05 am to
bama always plays a ton of day games. I don't think bama complaining is fricking us.
Posted by BattinRouge11
River Side of Mag
Member since Aug 2013
1295 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:09 am to
Right. This is what I mean. You are just going along with what's happening. Bama complains and when the very next opportunity comes along, their biggest rival gets fricked.

We have night games. It's tradition. We tailgate better than everyone. Home games are a huge contributor to BR economy.

Bama complains and the SEC offices frick our entire state.

I'm just asking if they've ever denied this is what they are doing. Would be laughable if so.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:12 am to
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You are just going along with what's happening.


you think A&M or Arkansas want to play at 11am? I am sure there are many factors involved in what team is given the 11am slot and not one of theose factors is "well bama complained and LSU hates 11am games so let's put LSU at 11am"...guess what time bama played last saturday
Posted by BattinRouge11
River Side of Mag
Member since Aug 2013
1295 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:15 am to
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"well bama complained and LSU hates 11am games so let's put LSU at 11am"


I want to see someone from the SEC deny this was said
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31880 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:19 am to
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you think A&M or Arkansas want to play at 11am? I am sure there are many factors involved in what team is given the 11am slot and not one of theose factors is "well bama complained and LSU hates 11am games so let's put LSU at 11am"...guess what time bama played last saturday



You think you are acting smart and above it but you are proving your ignorance.

Bamas president and AD specifically used the date 2014 for a reason.

2014 was the year that LSU and former commissioner Mike Slive reached an agreement that LSU would play night games and facilitate that with ESPN and CBS.

So the one time the one thing we have gotten any preferential/tradition honored bama complains and gets it changed. Mind you they get season and division championship altering tradition of playing Tennessee honored
Posted by RichardT
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2005
1472 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:20 am to
I think the SEC respects the traditions of other schools in the conference. Alabama having to play Tennessee, Auburn having to play Georgia, Mississippi State having to have cowbells, and others. LSU’s tradition is playing night games. The SEC should respect that tradition just as it respects others but they don’t.

That’s my beef with it. Ignore our tradition but bend over backwards for other schools’ traditions. Fack the SEC.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28349 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:26 am to
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bama always plays a ton of day games. I don't think bama complaining is fricking us.


As I said in another thread, Generally I would agree. But this gripe is legitimate. The reason LSU hadn't played in Nashville since 2010 and won't do so again until over a decade from Saturday's meeting is because of the irrevocable rule of "permanent cross division opponents". A rule that is ONLY in place because Alabama MUST play Tennessee each season as if it is the bedrock rivalry/tradition of college football. That "tradition" is the ONLY thing that prevents more routine games with the other SEC East opponents besides Florida.

Fine. That's Alabama's "tradition". Arguably, LSU's tradition is playing at night. And it has been that way for a long time. Now, LSU, understandably, backed off of that tradition as more and more games began to be broadcast. They generally haven't raised a huge opposition when SEC games we're selected for daytime starts. However, the thought was that at least for the non-conf. home games LSU could maintain its night game tradition. One week, ONE WEEK, after Alabama bitches because they have played more daytime OOC games than the other schools, LSU "suddenly" gets a 11:00 am non-conf. home game for the first time in over 10 years.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30550 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:29 am to
Bama had an 11:00 am home game last week
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:29 am to
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bama always plays a ton of day games. I don't think bama complaining is fricking us.



They also have had some ridiculously late starts, too. Ole Miss comes to mind as like starting at 8 or 830 pm in years past.

Approaching this from a different angle, maybe the league office wants the bitching to use as leverage to do away with these early start times for the next round of negotiations with ESPN/SEC Network.

nobody likes the 11am start time. and nobody bitches like LSU fans.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 11:33 am
Posted by LSU Alumnus
Member since Nov 2017
1831 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:30 am to
Maybe we could buy our way out of the contract.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:38 am to
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I think the SEC respects the traditions of other schools in the conference. Alabama having to play Tennessee, Auburn having to play Georgia, Mississippi State having to have cowbells, and others. LSU’s tradition is playing night games. The SEC should respect that tradition just as it respects others but they don’t.


I think this can be generally agreed upon. It's odd. LSU is a founding member of the SEC, and yet more often than not is treated like some bastard stepchild by the league office in regards to traditions which make our program special..
Posted by SeanLSU
Member since May 2019
1759 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:48 am to
Moving our Utah St game to 11am makes a lot of sense, and it shouldn't be a big deal. For one, it's a non-conference game, so it gets less priority from the conference than other teams with conference opponents that weekend. On top of that, it gets LSU a chance to play on TV in a different time slot which helps the conference out with the TV deals as the back half of our schedule is absolutely loaded with matchups that the networks will want in higher value slots. I get it ... we like night games. But this isn't a conspiracy.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:50 am to
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Bama complains and when the very next opportunity comes along, their biggest rival gets fricked.



Uhhh..... we might consider Bama to be our biggest rival, but that feeling isn’t mutual.

I’m pretty sure if Bama were really out to screw over a rival, they’d go after AU first.
Posted by FamousAmos
Member since Feb 2010
3276 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:51 am to
I know people who work at the SEC offices. Its not just Bama grads.

There are actually quite a few LSU alums who work there.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28349 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:51 am to
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Bama had an 11:00 am home game last week


That isn't the point. LSU fans don't care if Bama plays USM at 11:00 am or 7:00 pm. The point is that one SEC member's important tradition is being dismissed because another school complained.

This isn't LSU fans lobbying to get at CBS conf. game changed. This is a game that will draw minimal attention, thus the start time would appear to be more flexible to accommodate LSU's tradition of night games. Plus, lest you somehow think this reaction is not STRICTLY in response to Bama's bitching, LSU's opponent for that game is from Utah. That means those folks will have to watch the game at 10:00 am, which isn't exactly ideal for maximizing viewership. Logically you would want to start the game later, if nothing else, because of LSU's opponent. Yet
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67590 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 11:57 am to
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The point is that one SEC member's important tradition is being dismissed because another school complained.


tv has changed things since the 80's...there is only one thing to do and that is deal with it. If Ole Miss, A&M, Arkansas, MSU, Auburn, etc game is ever scheduled for 11am that is when our fans should lose their shite. Hell there are already threads about the florida and auburn games both potentially being 2:30 cbs games and fans saying Woodward needs to ensure one of them is a night game. CBS owns the SEC with all the money they paid for the contract...if they want LSU to play both of those teams at 2:30 that is what will happen.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
31880 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 12:01 pm to
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tv has changed things since the 80's.


Ok.

Please discuss Mike Slives agreement to honor our tradition our lack of non conference morning kickoffs since 2014 and then now theUtah state time in light of the bama letter.


quote:

if they want LSU to play both of those teams at 2:30 that is what will happen.


Yes and I don’t think anyone seriously thinks we are getting a conference cbs game moved. It’s not unreasonable to expect the conference to work with the providers to have us on a lower tier network at night and that is what has occurred from 2014 to now.

Only one thing changed now
Posted by Philippines4LSU
Member since May 2018
8789 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 12:05 pm to
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bama always plays a ton of day games


Well they have the single weakest of the 14 SEC teams as their permanent cross-division opponent.

They have a guaranteed, cupcake rent-a-win that counts as a conference game every year, while we play Florida annually and Auburn plays Georgia.

That’s the trade off.

frick Bama and frick Birmingham for failing to eliminate the permanent cross-division opponents. The very least we should get by way of concessions is no early games unless CBS selects us for the 2:30.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Alldaylong
Homer La.
Member since Jun 2019
884 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 12:06 pm to
At least our game will start on time. Let er go boys
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