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Buckeye Jeaux
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re: Sean Payton gives his thoughts on Joe Brady
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So excuse me for not thinking Brady is going to walk in and make LSU look similar to the saints.
If as advertised, the passing game will look similar in that it will be 80%+ short quick passes from spread sets.

If not, E & O will have screwed the pooch.
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La Place Mike
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re: Sean Payton gives his thoughts on Joe Brady
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So excuse me for not thinking Brady is going to walk in and make LSU look similar to the saints.


Some posters on the Rant get overly excited and why not? It's the off season.

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Probably not. It will be different than last years though.


Roger is correct. Anyone that watched the spring game could see a difference.

On a side note. I don't believe the buckeye guy believes Burrow is Tom Brady or Drew Brees. All he is saying is if the O Line doesn't have to hold blocks as long Burrow should have the time to attempt short passes. Which, in theory, shorter routes are easier to complete than longer routes. But, it's the rant and people just like to argue.


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Pro tip: Short quick passes are far easier to complete than long slow-developing passes. 

Close to 80% of Brees' completions are less than 10 yards. About 65% are under 5 yards.
If it is so efficient, why doesn't everyone do it? It's no secret that Brady and Brees have been using short quick passes for years now. I want to follow your line of thought, but using two QB's who have a combined 7 rings makes it seem a little far fetched.

I just don't think it's fair to say that LSU will be able to replicate a decent portion of the saints passing game just because the NFL version of a Saint's GA is now our passing game coordinator.

I hope Brady does well. I really do. I just believe that the improvement we will see in LSU's offense this year will have more to do with increased familiarity and natural player progression than the little wrinkles Joe is bringing in.
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re: Sean Payton gives his thoughts on Joe Brady
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Pro tip: Short quick passes are far easier to complete than long slow-developing passes.

Someone should have told O and E that last season.


Buckeye Jeaux
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On a side note. I don't believe the buckeye guy believes Burrow is Tom Brady or Drew Brees. All he is saying is if the O Line doesn't have to hold blocks as long Burrow should have the time to attempt short passes.

Spot on. Brees and Brady are HOF QB's.

Burrow (IMO) is a Top-5 college QB, and will show out in the Spread/RPO offense. After all, he's been running it since he was a young kid.
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Sounded to me like Sean Payton was kind of struggling to find words to say about Brady.


Never seen his pressers before?


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re: Sean Payton gives his thoughts on Joe Brady
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Pro tip: Short quick passes are far easier to complete than long slow-developing passes.


Someone should have told O and E that last season.
This is almost too good . Everyone criticizing Coach O and E last year(including myself) was saying we needed short quick passes instead of max protection. But there is no way we could have been right because according to the CherriOs the coaches are always right and we are just a bunch of rantards who don't understand football

Now six months later we are getting fluff articles about how LSU is trying to copy the Saint's short quick passing game. It's getting to the point where it is almost comical.



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Yeah, Goldy. No one will ever accuse you of seeing the brighter side of things.



This team doesn't need Joe Burrow to lead the SEC in passing to do great things.

He could pass for 1500 yards for all I care if we win the NC. I know that would very much upset you though.


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He didn't say it in that way. Brady said something to the effect that Payton will agree that Carmichael is usually the smartest guy in the room.

Tomato Tomato


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Buckeye Jeaux
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Everyone criticizing Coach O and E last year(including myself) was saying we needed short quick passes instead of max protection.
Sorry to break it to you, but all flavors of fans were calling for a short pass game. Not just the bashers. Looks like O&E wanted one also or they wouldn't have brought in Brady.

Nice try at flippin the script, tho!
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Goldrush25
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Sorry to break it to you, but all flavors of fans were calling for a short pass game. Not just the bashers. Looks like O&E wanted one also or they wouldn't have brought in Brady.



Or the HC could either have E do it himself, or hire a OC in the first place that knows how to install that offense.

This whole approach to creating an offense is disjointed and haphazard, which is this HC's MO. He never goes and gets the guy that knows how to do exactly what he wants. He hires a friend and then forces a concept on him.
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last year(including myself) was saying we needed short quick passes instead of max protection.


it's really funny how some of you have no clue why teams, including the saints, run this


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He’s credited with the Taysom Hill packages. That’s it.
So he is credited with a package that threw the ball like 4 times.



frick on a fricking stick frick


Bayou_Tiger_225
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Looks like O&E wanted one also or they wouldn't have brought in Brady.
Sure... And to be honest that remains to be seen. Brady is completely unproven to this point. All this hype you have for him is pure speculation.

Just remember that O&E said they wanted to run the RPO last year, and then proceeded to hire one of the most traditional NFL coaches to be the passing game coordinator. Sullivan then proceeded, along with O&E(you can't tell me those two just stood by and let Sullivan call the shots) to parked our arse in max protection all year.

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cbree88
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re: Sean Payton gives his thoughts on Joe Brady
I hope this doesn’t mean that Brady sucks.


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Buckeye Jeaux
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Or the HC could either have E do it himself, or hire a OC in the first place that knows how to install that offense.

This whole approach to creating an offense is disjointed and haphazard, which is this HC's MO.
This isn't Madden football. You don't just click a box to launch a passing game. Particularly when you're doing it in a program that has been ground & pound for about a century.

Orgeron appears to be making all the right moves toward a solid passing game. There's been some trial and error in even the best of passing programs.

I wonder what you'll bitch about when this offense lights it up this Fall. I'm sure you'll find something.


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re: Sean Payton gives his thoughts on Joe Brady
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So he is credited with a package that threw the ball like 4 times.


Taysom threw ball seven (7) times last year you miserable HATER!


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re: Sean Payton gives his thoughts on Joe Brady
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This isn't Madden football. You don't just click a box to launch a passing game. Particularly when you're doing it in a program that has been ground & pound for about a century.



I think you should at least hire a OC that does exactly what you want him to do. If you were running a restaurant would you hire a Chinese food chef then tell him to cook Italian?

Tell the wisdom behind hiring one of your friends to run the offense and then forcing an offense on him? I know exactly why he's doing it but I'd like to hear why you think he does it. Every OC he's had it's been the same pattern.

Then again I guess part of the problem is that this guy has changed his mind 3-4 times on what type of offense he wants since got the job.
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The Taysom Hill packages work in the NFL because it's a gimmick. Opposing teams spent the majority of their time preparing for the HOF QB and two headed monster at RB. Not the guy who takes at most five snaps a game at QB.


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Buckeye Jeaux
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I think you should at least hire a OC that does exactly what you want him to do.

Tell the wisdom behind hiring one of your friends to run the offense and then forcing an offense on him? I know exactly why he's doing it but I'd like to hear why you think he does it. Every OC he's had it's been the same pattern.

You are on a fault-finding mission. Can't help you much, except Sullivan didn't work out.

I'm way more interested in what will happen in the '19 season. Sure looks like it will be an explosive offense to me.



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