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re: same old rant problem regarding miles
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:10 pm to Ducyborg
Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:10 pm to Ducyborg
Oh how much you'd idiots regret another coach after a few years. It's fortunate to have this staying stress.. All the hot attractive coaches fizzle so fast and then leave your program in dumps! Be thankful we have great stability seriously. No one has his OOC success and if not for Bamas recent emergence LSU would be off the charts in recent success. We will take care of them very soon enough as well as the entire sec
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Posted on 8/31/14 at 9:14 pm to bfniii
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criticisms of miles are not valid until he is not leading the sec in wins.
So that is all there is to it? No criticism as long as he has the most wins in the SEC? Are there any other possible metrics? Like SEC championships? Playoff appearances, national championships? Further, do you mean to say that he must remain above criticism because there be nothing to criticize so long as he has the "most wins"?
I disagree....
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:21 pm to winston318
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I'm just tired of games like this. We need to let him no that even though he is winning games; it's not acceptable.
Now this is sig worthy
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:29 pm to White Tiger
Most here seem happy with not the best player or game management or on the field discipline or preparation. Most are fine with 10-3 and no championship. Sure seems that way. I'll take 7-6 7-6 back to back as long as he wins the sec that 3rd year or 3 every 10 years.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:36 pm to RCDfan1950
quote:Do we really have to bring God into a discussion over Les Miles' in game coaching ability? Because I am pretty sure he thought the delay of game on the 2nd half kickoff was pretty shitty too.
Les is a good guy, or those kids and their families wouldn't trust him. Thank the Good Lord!
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:38 pm to Ducyborg
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He's getting paid 5 million dollars a year,
Why the bleep does the salary matter to you? He negotiated it and he's getting paid.
If he got 3.9 million instead, would his performance be OK?
quote:
it's okay to say he isn't the best thing since sliced bread and suck him off.
What's this thing about you sucking him?
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:52 pm to Fat Bastard
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Most here seem happy with not the best player or game management or on the field discipline or preparation. Most are fine with 10-3 and no championship. Sure seems that way. I'll take 7-6 7-6 back to back as long as he wins the sec that 3rd year or 3 every 10 years.
That's precisely what Les has done over the last 9 years
- 2 finals appearances
- 3 SEC finals
- 1 championship
- 2 SEC titles
while going 10-3 otherwise
Posted on 8/31/14 at 10:57 pm to YellowShoe
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quote:
Most here seem happy with not the best player or game management or on the field discipline or preparation. Most are fine with 10-3 and no championship. Sure seems that way. I'll take 7-6 7-6 back to back as long as he wins the sec that 3rd year or 3 every 10 years.
That's precisely what Les has done over the last 9 years
- 2 finals appearances
- 3 SEC finals
- 1 championship
- 2 SEC titles
while going 10-3 otherwise
BOOM!
thanks
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:02 pm to Fat Bastard
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Most are fine with 10-3 and no championship
Do you know that no SEC school has more West or SEC titles since 05 than LSU?
I'm "fine" with the most BCS wins, the most SEC wins, the most regular season OOC wins, as many West titles as any SECW school, as many SEC titles as any SEC school, and 2 BCSCG appearances.
Each to our own, but anyone not "fine" with the achievements of LSU football since 05 is SEC/BCS college football mentally challenged.
Posted on 8/31/14 at 11:07 pm to bfniii
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miles is not a good
Stopped reading there
Posted on 9/1/14 at 12:27 am to tigerswin03
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it seems to me sometimes clm goes into games with the wrong gameplan , and seems like he sometimes plays to the opponents strengths instead of our teams strengths .....
So, he's had the wrong game plan 24 times in 9 compete seasons? Hmmmmm
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:55 am to airbornetiger
The talent wins the football games despite the coaching.
LSU loses how many players to the NFL? So he's got the talent. He's a great recruiter, no doubt.
But as far as discipline?
We lose games to Ole Miss because of lack of discipline.
There's this thing in economics called opportunity cost.
The "negatigers" believe that a 10-3 season could have been a NCG season if not for the lack of discipline. That's an opportunity cost. The 'positigers' are happy with 10-3 because they recall being 2-10. They don't weigh the opportunity cost.
There are coaches who are not as good recruiters as LM, that if had our talent would have won multiple NCs with these unbelievably talented teams (NFL picks), because they make the most of what they have.
LSU loses how many players to the NFL? So he's got the talent. He's a great recruiter, no doubt.
But as far as discipline?
We lose games to Ole Miss because of lack of discipline.
There's this thing in economics called opportunity cost.
The "negatigers" believe that a 10-3 season could have been a NCG season if not for the lack of discipline. That's an opportunity cost. The 'positigers' are happy with 10-3 because they recall being 2-10. They don't weigh the opportunity cost.
There are coaches who are not as good recruiters as LM, that if had our talent would have won multiple NCs with these unbelievably talented teams (NFL picks), because they make the most of what they have.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 8:57 am to bfniii
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miles is not a good
They didn't understand Einstein either!!!!!!
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:00 am to bfniii
It took me a long time to realize this, but Les simply a winner. Any time a head coach has that attribute, which is the most important one, the fan base is fortunate.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:10 am to White Tiger
quote:correct
No criticism as long as he has the most wins in the SEC?
quote:I already addressed sec championships. the rest are in the hands of voters so, no.
Are there any other possible metrics? Like SEC championships? Playoff appearances, national championships?
quote:correct
Further, do you mean to say that he must remain above criticism because there be nothing to criticize so long as he has the "most wins"?
quote:you're entitled to be wrong. football is not about how a team looks. it's about wins. miles wins more than anybody else. I explained why I think this is going to be historically more impressive than auburn's inconsistent accomplishments
I disagree
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:17 am to Milosh
quote:you didn't read the op. then you're saying the sec isn't the toughest conference because if it is, no coach can just trot out a talented team, have them draw up plays in the dirt and win. rethink this
The talent wins the football games despite the coaching
quote:every team loses because of lack of discipline. lsu loses less so, you should be happy right?
We lose games to Ole Miss because of lack of discipline
quote:negative. it's completely subjective and based on nothing justifiable at all. their expectations are completely unreasonable because they're not looking at the big picture, which is what the op is about.
The "negatigers" believe that a 10-3 season could have been a NCG season if not for the lack of discipline. That's an opportunity cost
quote:this is completely wrong. people who you are describing understand the big picture. they know that no team can sustain championships in the toughest conference. if that weren't true, it wouldn't be the toughest conference. I just think there are some people too dense to get this simple proposition.
The 'positigers' are happy with 10-3 because they recall being 2-10. They don't weigh the opportunity cost
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:18 am to tigerswin03
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I was really disappointed in the game plan and the way it played out in the first half
We were playing a Wisconsin team with a veteran secondary and 100% new starters in the front seven. We returned a deep, talented oline and veteran backs, and we were inexperienced at QB. If you asked four thousand coaches what the game plan should be , all four thousand would say to run it down their throats, and only occasionally mix in play action.
We had a similar situation at Ole Miss last year except we had a veteran QB. LSU threw the ball too much, we lost the game, and people on here wanted to flay Miles for not running it more.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:19 am to Milosh
quote:no. Opportunity Cost is a known benefit you are foregoing. Your contention that miles is not maximizing talent and another coach would have three more national titles is not an opportunity cost it's just like.......... your opinion man.
That's an opportunity cost.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:19 am to winston318
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I never hear anyone challenge him
Your homework assignment is to read the Rant all day today and see how much criticism there is of CLM. Half of TD wants him fired because he doesn't destroy every team by 50 and hoist the crystal every year.
As someone else posted, many "hotshot" coaches have taken over successful programs and run them into the ground. CLM took a successful LSU program, has taken it to even greater success and maintained that success his entire tenure here.
Some here say the positigers are happy with just 10 wins every season and don't care about championships. Not the case, we all want to win championships. We just realize it won't happen every year for every team and some of us actually have a life outside of LSU football.
quote:I'm assuming this should have been a question? My answer to you is you haven't watched much LSU football. We routinely destroy teams on the scoreboard and on the field. Not NCAA or Madden style but that is so unrealistic it is pathetic.
Why is it that we don't destroy teams on the scoreboard or in the game.
Now go and ask your mommy if you can go out and play today.
Posted on 9/1/14 at 9:48 am to Lonnie4LSU
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Do you know that no SEC school has more West or SEC titles since 05 than LSU?
I know one who has won more since 2008.
quote:
I'm "fine" with the most BCS wins, the most SEC wins, the most regular season OOC wins, as many West titles as any SECW school, as many SEC titles as any SEC school, and 2 BCSCG appearances.
A lot of that is starting to be way in the rearview mirror. The 2011 season was a thing of beauty...only to be utterly ruined by perhaps the worst-coached game in the history of the team. Honestly, I was in your camp until that day, but Les squandered years of goodwill with that inexplicable performance. I still think we are going to get some crazy explanation 25 years from now that will sort of make sense of it.
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