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re: Saban pulled his starting QB at half-time of NCG...
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:35 pm to Original Bayou Boy
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:35 pm to Original Bayou Boy
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Saban pulled his starting QB at half-time of NCG...
That's a very different scenario. Saban recruited Tua for 1 and thats a very different relationship than inheriting a guy that you now have to get to know and trust. And Tua was the #1 QB in the country coming out of HS. Nuss was good but he was the 14th QB. He wasn't labeled as some generational QB like Tua. If he thought Nuss was the better QB, then NUss would be starting.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:35 pm to JohnDeer
And Kelly just beat Saban with that QB you think is so useless.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:36 pm to Penrod
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Yours is an egocentric interpretation based on the assumption that Kelly is locked into some battle with you. Kelly doesn't even know you exist, and he is not involved with any struggle of egos, either with you or any other fans. Kelly played Daniels because he thought that was our best chance of winning. Simple.
Whether you want to believe it or not, CBK is a human and has an ego just you and I have. Yes he wants to win games, but also wants to be right. Do you think that deep down, he wasn’t a little embarrassed at how glaringly wrong he was about having the wrong guy in at QB all year?
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:36 pm to STEVED00
You mean the first real game experience for nuss was a solid sec school and LSU lost in ot. Nuss wasn't terrible and was a TF playing his first real college ball. You are so caught up with a bad QB that you can't even see the tools nuss has. His dad is a damn NFL QB coach. He was barking out coverages the other night at line of scrimmage, moved well in pocket, 60 yard rope. BH couldn't play when the lights went on. Confidence is not an issue with nuss. But you carry on, I know JD is your boy, and you couldn't care less if he could pass well or not.....mane
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:38 pm to HonoraryCoonass
Didn’t know what Tua capable of at that time and it worked out
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:38 pm to Frogman93
It blows my mind to see you guys stumping for a QB that after starting 4 years still can't read a d, or accurately throw the ball down field. When you get your wish and we come back with same offense next year, only worse because teams are now scheming against JD...you'll have excuses why it isn't jd's fault...ol, oc, wr, etc...blows my mind.
This post was edited on 12/6/22 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:38 pm to JohnDeer
GLARINGLY WRONG?!?!? Ffs we won 9 games when everyone picked us as going 6-6!!!!! We won the SEC west. We beat Bama at home for the first time since 2010. I’d say BKs been right this whole time.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:40 pm to Frogman93
You forget the state, aub, and arky games where defense literally bailed us out by shutting opponent down second half, not to mention FL St, Tenn, a&m. Jesus
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:41 pm to paulb52
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Didn’t know what Tua capable of at that time and it worked out
He was a 5*, #1 QB in his class and was labeled as generational. BTW, Saban had an idea of what he was capable of and that's why he put him in the NC game. Do you think Saban was like "Frick it, lets see what he's got?"
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:41 pm to Original Bayou Boy
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Saban pulled his starting QB at half-time of NCG...
For Brian Kelly to win and win big, he has to have the stones
I'm an outsider but I think people massively misunderstand what happened there. People want to point to saban as being a brilliant strategist, or having "stones" to make a gutsy call, or any number of other things. None of that is correct. The reality is that he literally had zero other choice considering jalen hurts was worse than dogshit and led them to precisely ZERO points in the biggest game of the year. That is in no way similar to the SECCG this year where Daniels was throwing some great passes early and moving the ball well and put points up on the board. In the '17 NCG Hurts was 3/8 for 21 yards. Let that sink in how abysmal that is. Saban's back was against the wall and he only had one bullet left in the gun and it just so happened to work out favorably for him, but let's call it what it was. It was the desperate, last ditch hail mary effort of someone out of options with nowher else to turn.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:42 pm to Topwater Trout
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so was Saban wrong all year in starting Hurts?
Of course not. Saban had a whole season of watching Tua practice and make incredible throws.
Tua was a much better college QB than Hurts was. Hurts could run better. Tua was a better passer.
My point is that Saban has the stones to make these million dollar decisions, good or bad. I've seen BK take risks by going on 4th down, maybe when he should have punted. That's not guts, thats bad coaching.
Nuss took advantage of his opportunity. He competed. Everyone was happy to see him play so good. Nobody wanted to see JD get hurt.
Kelly did go for two against Bama and for that, I have high hopes for the future. If he plays JD rather than a better player, then all that good will will be gone.
BTW, that better player may be Howard.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:42 pm to Htownbayubengal
It blows my mind how kind numbingly arrogant you people on this board are. JD was doing fine against the best team in the country before his wounds caught up to him. Not his fault special teams royally fricked uo and a ball bounced off a players helmet after hitting him in the hands.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:43 pm to bayou85
Lol...yeah Kelly went and got him in portal...it was never open, it's why Brennan quit and why Boutte pouted. Kelly has a history of wanting this type QB and I guess he hasn't learned his lesson yet from the best downs he takes on the big stage.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:43 pm to Htownbayubengal
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It blows my mind to see you guys stumping for a QB that after starting 4 years still can't read a d, or accurately throw the ball down field. When you get your wish and we come back with same offense next year, only worse because teams are now scheming against JD...you'll have excuses why it isn't jd's fault...ol, oc, wr, etc...blows my mind.
Your reality is completely warped and almost none of this is true. Also your past comments are leading everyone to believe you have an issue with the race of our starting QB. Might be time to be honest with yourself because we aren’t going to play along with your delusion.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:45 pm to Htownbayubengal
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Confidence is not an issue with nuss. But you carry on, I know JD is your boy, and you couldn't care less if he could pass well or not.....mane
Well we know who your boy is.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:45 pm to Frogman93
Always excuses. Nevermind he literally can't read a defense or throw an accurate pass downfield...he can run mane. It's what teams started shutting us down. But I guess you cant see that.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:45 pm to JohnDeer
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Leaving Nuss on the bench this entire season has been a huge mistake.
LSU was picked to finish 5th in the SEC West. In case you missed it, they won the SEC West...with Daniels at QB. Thus, it's a bit hard to say not playing the backup QB was a "huge mistake".
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No matter how bad JD has looked this year, CBK has refused to bench him. “This is my guy and that’s who I’m going with. I don’t care how bad he looks or how bad he plays, I’m right because I’m the head coach and you’re not.”
Besides the Tennessee game, where other factors caused LSU to fall behind 10-0 before the offense possessed the ball twice, was LSU ever "out of the game" early enough to necessitate a QB switch? LSU won 9 games. Everyone is dumping on the QB because of the last two, when in reality the much, MUCH, bigger issue was the complete collapse of the defense.
Could starting Nussmeier all season have yielded different results? We'll never know. But if someone would have said before the kickoff vs. FSU that LSU would win 9 games and the SEC West EVERYONE on this board would have taken it. Nussmeier looked great throwing the football in the 2nd half on Saturday. He was also in a very low risk situation. LSU was already down 25 when he entered the game. It wasn't a "must win" games in terms of LSU making the playoffs. Whether LSU ultimately lost by 10 or by 40 didn't really matter. They would still lose. So he had some freedom to throw a bit riskier passes.
To take a definitive stance LSU would have been much better with Nussmeier at QB this season is foolish. NO ONE can say that for sure. The bigger question is moving forward. All year LSU's offense struggled mightily to push the ball down field. Nussmeier did more of that in one half that LSU did all season. So I think that is something the coaches have to consider if they are not fully satisfied with how the offense performed this season.
If LSU were 6-6 or 5-7 this year largely because of bad QB play I would be right there with the others criticizing Kelly for not making a change. But given the fact LSU exceeding virtually ALL reasonable expectations this season it is really hard to criticize the personnel decisions.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:45 pm to Htownbayubengal
So you are perfectly fine praising Nuss for his good half vs UGA but will refuse to acknowledge his horrendous half vs Southern
G. Nussmeier
13-23, 183 YDS, 2 INT
G. Nussmeier
13-23, 183 YDS, 2 INT
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:47 pm to Original Bayou Boy
doubt we have 2 future NFL starters like Bama did.
Posted on 12/6/22 at 12:48 pm to Alt26
Defense bailed us out state, Auburn, arky. He was shitting bed. My god this is the same arguments used for keeping Les Miles...."he wins 9-10 games a year". We may not win a championship next year with nuss, but we damn sure aren't winning one with a QB that can't pass downfield
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