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re: Ryan Theriot on the missed DP by Arky

Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:13 pm to
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Because in no world passed 8u is that ball coming to him unless a guy goes full brain dead Lucky for Mr. Brain dead the 3rd baseman covered. You could tell he was shocked to receive the ball


But he absolutely should have been covering his bag, right?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
44831 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:14 pm to
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Yep. Milam was barely out of the box when Aloy fielded the ball. It wouldn’t have been close
Milam seemed to know that too... didn't appear to be running very hard to first. He knew he was cooked.
Posted by purple18
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2009
1579 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:20 pm to
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I’ll listen to the guy who played 10 years of middle infield in the majors.



You know some of these travel ball dad’s know better than a 2x World Series winning SS stop.. lol
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29443 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:29 pm to
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he took off hard out of the box and slowed up once he realized Aloy fricked up. He was never in serious danger of getting doubled up by the 3B.

What I’m pointing out is the third baseman assumed the runner at second would have taken off for third if he threw it but that was 2 outs. Milam was barely 1/2 down the line when the third baseman caught the ball and never looked at first.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
49766 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:31 pm to
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What I’m pointing out is the third baseman assumed the runner at second would have taken off for third if he threw it but that was 2 outs. Milam was barely 1/2 down the line when the third baseman caught the ball and never looked at first.


He was surprised to get the ball and had to make sure he got his foot down on the bag.

You can tell he never expected that ball to come to him.
Posted by wesman21
Youngsville
Member since Jun 2009
3466 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 12:33 pm to
Smart baseball, with quick thinking brains AND muscle memory make the difference. Theriot is the fricking man, so well explained.
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
1931 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 3:13 pm to
Love Theriot. Epitome of hard-nosed Louisiana scrapper.

His explanation makes sense, but who knows what the SS was thinking?

Either way, good for us!
Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
1820 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 3:28 pm to
When Aloy releases the ball, Frey is over 20 feet from 2nd base and Monster is 70 feet from first. Tailor-made DP grounder. Bonehead move to throw to 3B to get meaningless runner. And Aloy knows it, that’s why he didn’t speak to media after the game.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17542 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 3:52 pm to
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His explanation makes sense, but who knows what the SS was thinking?



Exactly, the one thing I think almost everyone agrees to is it was a bad decision. We're splitting hairs on details but most agree on that main premise.

What we don't know is what the kid was thinking and why he made the play he did - and we won't know until he tells us.

Theriot played the position at that level and can give some insights in that regard but he's not a mind reader, he's got to speculate on some things just like the rest of us.
Posted by EulerRules
Member since Dec 2019
1820 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 3:57 pm to
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The throw to second certainly is routine because they do it all the time. But it definitely causes a rush due to the DP component. Which certainly adds more risk vs the play he chose to make.


I agree the DP is riskier because it involves 2 throws, but the REWARD would have been great. That was a tailor-made DP grounder. It’s a simple Risk-Reward decision. At that level of baseball in that situation in that important game after cleanly fielding the ball, he should have tossed to 2B (2nd baseman was standing on the bag when Aloy released the ball and 1st baseman was almost on 1B). I have never seen an infielder make a more costly bonehead mistake all things considered. No excuses. Anyone arguing otherwise should turn in their baseball card (IMO). There is not one Arkansas fan on SEC Rant defending Aloy’s decision.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
17542 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 4:07 pm to
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At that level of baseball in that situation in that important game after cleanly fielding the ball, he should have tossed to 2B


Folks who watch a lot of baseball, I can tell you they were almost all taken aback by that decision. It's just something you see so rarely it evokes this kind of scrutiny and discussion.
Posted by Zendog
Santa Barbara
Member since Feb 2019
6236 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 4:08 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 4:18 pm
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29443 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 5:26 pm to
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He was surprised to get the ball and had to make sure he got his foot down on the bag. You can tell he never expected that ball to come to him.

. I see it. Oh well on the coastal. That game is long in the books.
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