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re: Rob Dauster trying to take down LSU basketball

Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:41 pm to
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:41 pm to
A factual article that is trying to equate taking commitments from recruits not charged with any crimes, in cases handled in the public light, to athletic programs sweeping countless of allegations against players that happened on their campus while the players were on the team under the rug.

So it’s disingenuous to say the least
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 3:42 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95214 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

It's a shock journalism tweet to get people to click on a link. He couldn't have put "accused but not charged" on the thing everyone will see and not the 1% who take the time read his whole article? Obviously not because then people wouldn't care near as much.

No this isnt


Lsu has signed two players accused of rape


His article clearly points out the charges were dropped



Yall are getting mad at a journalist for writing an accurate article, because other people are idiots and may not read
This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 3:42 pm
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41170 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

What are you pissed about?


because dumb people don't read stories. they see things in headlines and run with it.

if he would've put "accused but not charged" in the headline, i'd have no problems with it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95214 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:43 pm to
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because dumb people don't read stories
So get mad at dumb fricking people.


You saying what is required in the title to make you happy, when all that info is clearly in the article itself, is hilarious
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95214 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

if he would've put "accused but not charged"
Also, this is dumb as shite sounding to be in a title


The fact the word accused is there, is common sense they havent been charged........
Posted by homesicktiger
High altitude hell
Member since Oct 2004
1367 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:45 pm to
I don't twitterbate, but a few clicks later I'm on some UNC player's twitter on which he says " Will Wade is scum."

Why he so mad?
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

You can get behind Wade and staff being fired if a player with no criminal history other than a accusation is again merely accused with no charges even brought?


In short, for the two guys mentioned in the article, yes.

LSU represents the state. With everything going on in the world, particularly at michigan state, you'd have to be a complete dumbass to take a chance on a kid that was accused of this. Right or wrong, it's not worth it.

I understand you can't predict 18-22 year olds behavior, but both of these guys have been accused once. If they get accused again then Wade was the idiot that brought them to LSU.

Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:47 pm to
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And it’s why I believe that Wade and his coaching staff should be fired if either Williams or Bigby-Williams has anything even close to an accusation of violence against women or sexual assault while on the LSU campus. If there are no serious repercussions for taking a risk that the kid you are bringing onto a college campus, where sexual violence is an epidemic, might actually be a serial sexual predator, then nothing is ever going to change.


So this guy is just writing this article just to ride on the Michigan State news wave. What a cünt.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171036 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

lsu1919


I accuse you of rape.

I guess it's true, right?
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41170 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

I guess it's true, right?


sure is
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10134 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:51 pm to
He should probably be banned from this site
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68330 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

No this isnt



Yes, the Tweet in this case leaving out a major fact is indeed shock journalism. It's leaving out a MAJOR part to that which is neither was ever charged. They were accused. Accusations happen a lot, not all of them turn into charges which in turn could turn into penalties.

quote:

Yall are getting mad at a journalist for writing an accurate article, because other people are idiots and may not read



We're getting mad at yet another half arse shock journalism attempt to get people to go out spatter negative shite about our program because, yes, many people dont like to read articles this day in age. They go with a tweet and boom, done.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

In the eyes of the law, neither of these men committed a crime.


Love how he slides that in at the bottom of the article.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56516 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

I can get behind this. Bring them here. But it's on the coaches that recruited them, knowing their history, if the frick up.



I'd suggest that coaches take a back seat to those that actually work in law enforcement and the judicial branch of government.

It's crazy that anyone should think someone should be punished for "taking a chance" on someone who was not convicted of something.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95214 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

We're getting mad at yet another half arse shock journalism attempt to get people to go out spatter negative shite about our program because, yes, many people dont like to read articles this day in age. They go with a tweet and boom, done.

So, to sum it up


A journalist writes an accurate article

The journalist tweets out with said article attached to tweet


Some people are lazy idiots who wont read


Blame the journalist for said people not reading the article that is attached to the tweet
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71607 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:54 pm to
Fair or not signing two guys accused of rape isn't a good look and will look extra bad on WW if any of our guys get in trouble. We'd judge any other coach if the same happened.
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4709 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Funny he likes to mention they were "Accused" and not the part where both were never actually charged.


Yeah that's a massive difference.


I am a bit concerned reading about Williams. It said the girls friend had a text exchange with him while she was in the presence of the police where he admitted she did not consent. However, if that's true I'm not sure how they decided not to charge him.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68330 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

The fact the word accused is there, is common sense they havent been charged........



There's a pretty big difference with just saying accused which could mean different stages.

I can accuse you right now of being a rapist, that would just mean you're accused and an investigation could be ongoing. A much worse look than:

Instead, these particular cases are long since over. They were accused, and nothing was filed because DAs saw no wrong doing to pursue any charges. It's over, they are no longer really accused and no legal action is being taken against them.

Pretty huge difference.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:56 pm to
quote:

I accuse you of rape.


Well, the first time they would investigate, drop charges or whatever, then I'd transfer to LSU.

Now, the second time, if there was a second time, someone would have some explaining to do for letting me come to LSU when I had a history of being accused.

If I never get accused again, then it's a non-issue.

See how that works. It's on me to not put myself in a situation, (Bigby-Williams had sex with a passed out drunk girl, so he may want to start there), where I could be accused.

Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68330 posts
Posted on 1/29/18 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Blame the journalist for said people not reading the article that is attached to the tweet



This is the society we live in, 95% of people will go with a tweet. Isn't there a stat out there most people get their news from tweets and facebook these days?

He took advantage of that by posting a shock tweet. Again, "no charges ever filed" and "no legal cases pending" isn't much to add but he left it out the tweet, I wonder why.

This post was edited on 1/29/18 at 3:58 pm
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