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Revisiting Jay’s #1 Recruiting Class

Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:22 pm
Posted by burreauxxx
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:22 pm
Player BA Rank

Kling #19
Shores #23
Neal #29
Noot #33
Jones #47
Guidry #65
Bronzini #153
Moffitt #193
Herring #198
Frey #230
Bucknam #235
Ruddell #295
Paul #384
Primeaux #500


Jones and Herring have produced. Guidry has a role. Couple key pitching injuries obviously. A lot of busts.

Definitely not the No 1 class in hindsight. Bad evals or bad development?
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
73508 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Definitely not the No 1 class in hindsight.


What class is better?
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
4014 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:27 pm to
quote:

Bad evals


If scouting baseball players were easy, far more than 50% of first round picks would make the big leagues.
Posted by DhanTigers212
Member since Dec 2014
9867 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:27 pm to
Kling and Neal so far haven’t lived up to the hype. It happens man.
Posted by Roux22
Member since Jan 2023
581 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:27 pm to
This isn’t the answer that you are looking for, but that is baseball man.

Jumping from high school when you are simply the best on you team. You may be in a weak district to the SEC isn't easy. Some cut it. Some don’t.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
33887 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Definitely not the No 1 class in hindsight. Bad evals or bad development?
You seem extremely sure of that who do you think was the #1 class?

Shores was pumping 99 before he got hurt and was likely going to be our 3rd starter

Jones just finished top 10 in the country in home runs

Guidry and Herring were both major contributors to a national championship

Moffet, Frey and Neal all have huge potential

And he brought in Tommy Tanks and Paul Skenes in that transfer class as well.

What was that again about bad evaluations?
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
33887 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:29 pm to
quote:

Kling and Neal so far haven’t lived up to the hype. It happens man.
Neal has been hurt but when he's been healthy he's been a stud.
Posted by Traceg03
LA
Member since Jun 2018
1386 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:30 pm to
Not every baseball player pans out to be as good as they were projected… baseball is nothing like other sports but one similarity is that you can go look at top 10 recruits from any 2005+ football player and plenty of those guys never even become good d1 guys.

High school to SEC baseball is a huge jump. Id say bigger than SEC to any Minor league baseball level.

Jones - great high school player, his jump from 2023 to 2024 was Huge
Big amount of Development.

Shores - Will be an all star next year / will be a major leaguer one day if he goes in the draft (been hurt most of college career unfortunately)

Neal - shows signs of a great player is young for his class and immediately started as a 17 year old freshman at the most prestigious baseball college. (On a team that won a natty)

Noot - great arm been hurt entire college career.

Moffitt - great arm was really making strides this year but because of the early season struggles didn’t have the chance to throw him in as often because every game became most win.


I can keep going down the list. The program has plenty of talent and plenty of guys are being developed. You will come across big name recruits who don’t ever figure it out or take longer to be developed it happens.

You shouldn’t expect a national championship every year. Baseball is harder to win a national championship than any other major sport because it takes a bit of luck as well.

You can however expect the post season every year and Jay Johnson has been great at that. And he works harder than any other coach I’ve ever seen when it comes to recruiting and putting his time into his job.
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:38 pm to
This guy really knows ball, P
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
11718 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

What class is better?


He has no clue


Posted by Dill With It
Member since Jun 2024
247 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:41 pm to
Takes like these make me feel better when I hit the submit button on a post shitting on Yeskie.

Thanks.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
23852 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 9:42 pm to
quote:

A lot of busts.


Like midweek losses to the sisters of the poor, that is just baseball
Posted by Curtis Lowe
Member since Dec 2019
1501 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:01 pm to
quote:

Player BA Rank

Kling #19
Shores #23
Neal #29
Noot #33
Jones #47
Guidry #65
Bronzini #153
Moffitt #193
Herring #198
Frey #230
Bucknam #235
Ruddell #295
Paul #384
Primeaux #500


Jones and Herring have produced. Guidry has a role. Couple key pitching injuries obviously. A lot of busts.

Definitely not the No 1 class in hindsight. Bad evals or bad development?


Or is this just a case of a clueless idiot rushing to judgement and trying find something LSU related to crap on?
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
5918 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

A lot of busts.


Every class has some. But you need to give the class another year. If you know every recruit that would be a bust, you wouldn’t have to pad the roster with extra guys. This class has a some dudes and some other that have been injured. In other words, it’s too early to judge. This class makes up over 25% of the travel roster of a team that was inches from hosting a superior regional. and that doesn’t count noot and shores who could be the best of the bunch.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75250 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:07 pm to
I mean the prime crop of this class was

Kling
Shores
Neal
Noot
Jones

Jones is a beast
Shores was a beast before his injury.
Noot get an incomplete because he really has been injured for 2 years.

so we are back to where we started with all of these conversation: Neal and Kling aren’t living up to hype so this class sucks.

NVM Herring who wasn’t as highly touted just had a sub 2 era.

the idea that this class is some kind of bust because we only have 2 sophemores make an all conference team is a bit much
This post was edited on 6/4/24 at 10:18 pm
Posted by That LSU Guy
PVB
Member since Jul 2008
14063 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10296 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:13 pm to
quote:

Definitely not the No 1 class in hindsight.
Jay doesn't work for BA, PG or CB.
He keeps getting top 5 HS and portal classes it will come together and make you look a fool.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
20605 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:14 pm to
Put another one in the rantard column.

The hate JJ gets while actually winning something is incredible compared to a clown like Matt McLoser
Posted by SofaKingTrill
Member since Mar 2008
7488 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:16 pm to
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Rank

Kling #19
Shores #23
Neal #29
Noot #33
Jones #47
Guidry #65
Bronzini #153
Moffitt #193
Herring #198
Frey #230
Bucknam #235
Ruddell #295
Paul #384
Primeaux #500


Shores was a monster last year before the injury. Noot hasn't pitched yet due to his injury. Neal has been decent and could take the next step. Jones has been great. Herring has been the best reliever on the team the last two years. Guidry closed out the national championship. Looks like a pretty good class to me. The injuries to Shores and Noot were huge though. Both had/have big time starter potential.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 3:09 am
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
2703 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:54 pm to
Recruiting has definitely dropped a notched with the new Wild West transfer portal. The portal has been a big part of LSU’s success. If Jay doesn’t hit the portal really hard, chances are LSU will not be competitive next year. Major holes to fill with pitching especially if Herring leaves. Holes to fill at 3B, SS, DH possibly 1B. It’s weird that they use to reload with recruiting. Now we seem to be really dependent on the portal for success.
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