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re: Removing Guice from the records is absurd
Posted on 4/24/21 at 3:13 pm to saint tiger225
Posted on 4/24/21 at 3:13 pm to saint tiger225
quote:this doesn't have a thing to do with race. You're just playing the worn-out race card.
Hmm, imagine that. A bunch of stuck up white boys hating a black dude who came from a different background. Doesn't surprise me
Posted on 4/24/21 at 3:21 pm to TheHarahanian
I only care about sports in the present. I don’t care about sports in the past. Yet erasure of sports statistics is only something a politician would argue is a useful tool. Better get to cancelling stats for all NCAA players who allegedly did bad deeds, or players who were convicted of a felony (that is an absurdly long list). Funny LSU wants to punish Guice but do nothing to punish the institution of enablement. All of it is trash.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 3:44 pm to J2thaROC
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do we as a society really want to celebrate people like that in any way?
It’s not about celebrating him. What he did on the field is a fact, and it’s recorded in books that contain factual statistics. Removing his data from those books doesn’t change what he did; it makes the books contain lies.
Assume the LSU pres once shook hands with Guice, and now decides to cut off his right hand so if anybody ever asks him if it happened, he can point at the missing hand and deny it. It doesn’t change what happened, and it makes him a liar and a huge idiot.
This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:06 pm to dukke v
He put a stain on his name. He was a member of the football team.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 8:26 pm to muddbone
We gonna wipe out Billy Cannon too while we're at it? I mean ... it's ridiculous. Keep Guice away from the program for a time period I guess, but changing record books is stupid.
Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:05 pm to TheHarahanian
Cecil Collins name is still in the record books, but Guice won't be? That makes no sense
Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:05 pm to TheHarahanian
If he cheated in the games or used performance enhancing drugs I could see removal, but deleting from records in this case is stupid.
It’s the schools fault for ignoring complaints and reports of behavior and continuing to play him. Following their own logic they should delete/forfeit all games he played in after first finding out and refund tickets and any money made above standard SEC contract while he played.
Also it’s not like schools haven’t long covered for athletes. It’s harder with social media and cameras everywhere (or delayed like in Guice’s case), but usually in past what finally made it to press was something that just could no longer have enough pressure or money to stop report. Athletes have always been treated specially in high schools and colleges, but the ones playing in money making sports are the true privileged class of students at colleges making some of comments by former players farcical. Guice wasn’t the first (still waiting for Ryan’s truth to come out) and will not be the last, and LSU is not alone by a long shot.
LSU and every other school need to stop having lower expectations of their athletes behavior than of their non-athlete students and stop covering up their mistakes and in some cases illegal activities. NCAA needs to stop letting problems just transfer and ignore becoming responsible adults.
Deleting record doesn’t fix anything and is just a distraction to real solutions including holding athletes accountable for their behavior off the field as much or more than the schools glorify and profit from their actions on the field and finding a fair system to replace the travesty that title IX has become for both sides.
It’s the schools fault for ignoring complaints and reports of behavior and continuing to play him. Following their own logic they should delete/forfeit all games he played in after first finding out and refund tickets and any money made above standard SEC contract while he played.
Also it’s not like schools haven’t long covered for athletes. It’s harder with social media and cameras everywhere (or delayed like in Guice’s case), but usually in past what finally made it to press was something that just could no longer have enough pressure or money to stop report. Athletes have always been treated specially in high schools and colleges, but the ones playing in money making sports are the true privileged class of students at colleges making some of comments by former players farcical. Guice wasn’t the first (still waiting for Ryan’s truth to come out) and will not be the last, and LSU is not alone by a long shot.
LSU and every other school need to stop having lower expectations of their athletes behavior than of their non-athlete students and stop covering up their mistakes and in some cases illegal activities. NCAA needs to stop letting problems just transfer and ignore becoming responsible adults.
Deleting record doesn’t fix anything and is just a distraction to real solutions including holding athletes accountable for their behavior off the field as much or more than the schools glorify and profit from their actions on the field and finding a fair system to replace the travesty that title IX has become for both sides.
This post was edited on 4/24/21 at 9:11 pm
Posted on 4/24/21 at 11:19 pm to TheHarahanian
OJ was found Not Guilty!!!!
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:13 am to Tigertoof
I agree. Cancelling stats is stupid especially when you havent removed Cecil Collins or Billy Cannon. But he should be banned. Just another way the university is trying to save face for not doing the right thing and fire ALL individuals involved in these allegations. Just trying to make themselves appear to be in control before the federal hearing and following lawsuits. They're gonna pay one way or another.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 1:40 am to TheHarahanian
LSU needs to change the end of the fight song from “Forever LSU” to “However LSU”!
Posted on 4/25/21 at 6:39 am to TheHarahanian
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It’s not about celebrating him. What he did on the field is a fact, and it’s recorded in books that contain factual statistics. Removing his data from those books doesn’t change what he did; it makes the books contain lies. Assume the LSU pres once shook hands with Guice, and now decides to cut off his right hand so if anybody ever asks him if it happened, he can point at the missing hand and deny it. It doesn’t change what happened, and it makes him a liar and a huge idiot.
Some people like erasing history. LSU is run by those people.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 6:57 am to TheHarahanian
It’s a show. Have to do something to act like we’re taking it seriously.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 7:27 am to TheHarahanian
Have to agree with the absurdity. You can’t erase history. The REL statue is gone, but the civil war really happened. History cannot be erased or rewritten.
Posted on 4/25/21 at 8:13 am to TheHarahanian
If he is that bad, why isn't he in jail?
Posted on 4/25/21 at 8:37 am to TheHarahanian
There's a statue in front of the stadium of a guy who did time for counterfeiting.
I've said this plenty since they said I am a racist and put the school colors of a OD'ing felon who died while resisting arrest on the stadium light...
frick LSU!
I've said this plenty since they said I am a racist and put the school colors of a OD'ing felon who died while resisting arrest on the stadium light...
frick LSU!
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:37 am to TheHarahanian
So what exactly was guice accused of?
Is it on deshaun Watson’s level or Bill Cosby level?
Is it on deshaun Watson’s level or Bill Cosby level?
Posted on 4/25/21 at 12:35 pm to TheHarahanian
Yeah that’s stupid, but ok with him not being around the program
Posted on 4/25/21 at 3:54 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Pretty common? Can you name five other players in the history of college football who have had their individual stats erased from the record books? I'm a football junkie and I can't.
Use google if you like. Its no different than schools vacating wins for using an ineligible player, its basically a move by the school to self inflict punishment and hopefully avoid more punishment by the NCAA
So yeah its pretty common.
Was this “cancel culture” around with Reggie Bush? No. You mf’rs are some huge pussies. Cry me a fricking river.
This post was edited on 4/25/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 4/27/21 at 10:03 am to P bean
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Rigggghhht. Because thats the only way that Kapernick was canceled. Its not like he wasnt trashed in the media for taking the advice of a fellow NFL player and an actual soldier who advised him that kneeling is more respectful.
Shut up biggot.
The four highest paid quarterbacks in NFL history are all black, Karen.
Name calling wouldn't be necessary if you had an intelligent argument.
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