re: Reminder to everyone that Kendall Rogers sucks

I told yall this back when it happened

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Emphatically? He said don’t believe silly rumors, it is wasn’t true, and that Curiel was practicing on January 15. I question your use of the word “emphatically.”

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He literally said “don’t believe this rumor, it’s not true” to someone that said that he broke his ankle in the fall and was rehabbing and might get off to a slow start. Literally all of that was 100% true and Kendall point blank said not to believe it because it was false.

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What reason would he have for straight up lying?

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I have no clue. Maybe LSU people told him to.

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Did he have no idea? Maybe. If anybody would straight up lie about it, it would be Jay. Maybe that’s who he gets his LSU info from. And Jay would never had told anyone—probably not even his wife—if Curiel had broken his ankle. He may told Kendall that he “tweaked” it in the fall, but he’d be good to go by the start of the season. Which he was.

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That’s fine. He was 100% wrong.

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Was Kendall even wrong at all? Would depend on how you interpret those couple of sentences. If he was denying DC broke his ankle, he was wrong. And we just found that out on May 27th. If his point was DC wouldn’t miss games, he was right.

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Yes he was wrong. The tweet didn’t say he would miss any games. It said don’t believe surprised if he missed games OR got off to a slow start. And guess what, he got off to a slow start due to the exact injury that Kendall denied. That’s from Curiel’s mouth, not mine.

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Not much of a look at all. Your starting this thread is way worse than any look reflected on Kendall. What a weird thing to be outraged by. And I’m agnostic on Rodgers. I don’t read his stuff unless it’s brought here. I don’t listen to him unless he’s on a local BR show. Seems to be a pretty genuine ambassador for college baseball. I don’t get all the hate. But I don’t follow him enough. Maybe he’s a huge, lying, grifting douche. Just has never come off like that to me.

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I believe he wants to grow college baseball. I also don’t like him after some of the stuff that he has come on this website and said.

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I don’t know. I’m embarrassed I’ve taken so much time of my late morning to even respond to this. I guess my goal on here has always been to keep LSU fans’ hate in check. This kind of shite makes us look petty and bad. And we are more than capable of doing that with our own players and coaches. Why we find the need to bring in guys like Kendall Rodgers is beyond me. But you do you, I guess.

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Kendall Rogers is active on this board. He chooses to be on here. I don’t really like Kendall Rogers so I don’t really care if Kendall Rogers likes me. I’ve given him plenty of money over the years.

wtf?

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he's likely the type of player who scouts don't see a high enough ceiling with him to offer him the type of money that LSU couldn't match in NIL to get him back for another year.

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Isn’t he projected to go in the 6th or 7th round? That’s close to $600k or so, I believe. He could drafted in the same exact spot next year—or even higher—and sign for $20k. So I can’t see him making a final decision until he knows exactly where he’s drafted. However, Jay can’t wait till the draft to start finding his replacement. SS is just too valuable. So it’s a tricky situation.

And I think Milan’s ceiling might be higher than you think. Will he ever be an MLB All-Star? No. Will he ever be an every day starter? Probably not. Could he make the bigs and stick around as a utility IF who could play all 3 positions? Sure. Depends on how he hits. You’re a fellow Braves fan, no? Have you seen the no-name trash we’ve had to run out at SS and 2B the past few seasons? Not meant to be every day players, but wind up starting 40 games or so due to injury.

Milam’s glove will play, the question is can he hit .225+ against big league pitching to get an opportunity and stick around. Again, those utility guys have value. If he does go around the 6th round, it’s because at least one team thinks his ceiling is as a big leaguer.
But his floor is probably not being able to hit his way into AA. He will be interesting to watch.

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Milam just wants to start his pro career, or wants to play, as you said in your post, "meaningful baseball" at LSU.

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Assuming—big assumption, I know—that his signing bonus and NIL deal are in the same ballpark, if he wants to play in the bigs, he’d be better off starting his professional development as soon as possible. He’s been a 3-year starter in the SEC. Was the starting SS on a NC team. Can’t see another year doing much except making him a year older. And I think a lot of fans underestimate how much having a CWS title in their pockets affects players. That’s why title teams get so gutted every year. They’ve had that experience.

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I could see him, with the draft leverage that he'd still have next year, maybe not wanting to end his LSU career with arguably the worst season this program has had since before Skip Bertman

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Again, dude started—as a freshman—on a NC team. Dogpiled in Omaha. I don’t think he gives 2 shits about how this year’s team compares historically to previous LSU teams. I mean, I’m sure he’s disappointed in it, but it’s going to factor into his decision absolutely zero. As it should.

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If he were a pitcher, with considerably higher career altering injury risk, I'd give it no chance that he comes back.

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Agree. But I actually think this revelation that he broke his ankle in November is going to HELP his draft stock. It explains away his bad start. Which he was still able to overcome and wind up hitting over .350.

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but we could sure use all the help we can get to turn this program back in the right direction, quickly.

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We could. But he helped this program win its 8th CWS Championship 11 months ago. He’s done enough. And adding another high schooler that came to LSU and went into the 1st round after just 2 years is probably a bigger long-term feather in Jay’s cap than anything DC could do next season. He’s leaving. As he should.

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Isn’t he projected to go in the 6th or 7th round? That’s close to $600k or so, I believe. He could drafted in the same exact spot next year—or even higher—and sign for $20k. So I can’t see him making a final decision until he knows exactly where he’s drafted. However, Jay can’t wait till the draft to start finding his replacement. SS is just too valuable. So it’s a tricky situation.

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Where he goes doesn't guarantee what he'll get for a bonus. Some go over slot, some go under slot. My opinion is that his offensive ceiling will be seen as limited, and he won't get an offer that LSU couldn't match. And Jay doesn't have to wait for the draft to find a replacement. He got Braswell's replacement, thinking he wasn't coming back, and then he did. So Braswell just moved to third. Then, of course, Milam beat out Dickinson at short, and Dickinson played second. I'm sure Jay will approach the portal with the assumption that Milam leaves, but if he gets an opportunity to have him back, he'll make it work.

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And I think Milan’s ceiling might be higher than you think. Will he ever be an MLB All-Star? No. Will he ever be an every day starter? Probably not. Could he make the bigs and stick around as a utility IF who could play all 3 positions? Sure. Depends on how he hits. You’re a fellow Braves fan, no? Have you seen the no-name trash we’ve had to run out at SS and 2B the past few seasons? Not meant to be every day players, but wind up starting 40 games or so due to injury.

Milam’s glove will play, the question is can he hit .225+ against big league pitching to get an opportunity and stick around. Again, those utility guys have value. If he does go around the 6th round, it’s because at least one team thinks his ceiling is as a big leaguer.
But his floor is probably not being able to hit his way into AA. He will be interesting to watch.

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A lot of your reply to me seems to ignore that I'm just projecting what I think teams think of him. It doesn't matter what I think his ceiling is. I don't know what his ceiling. The whole concept of a "ceiling" is just imaginary. nobody had Ozzie Albies being an eventual 30 home run hitter. I'm just looking at Milam, seeing his small stature, knowing how teams generally aren't crazy about that, and seeing how Milam has hit below .300 two years in a row in college, he doesn't have great speed or a particularly disciplined approach, and none of that bodes well for the next level. He does put the ball in play consistently, so there's that, but the quality of contact is inconsistent.

The defense is outstanding and, of course, will play at any level. You mentioned the "trash" the Braves have run out in the middle infield, but what you didn't mention is that none of them were trash, defensively. You can find good defenders who can't hit big league pitching, in a lot of places. I think if a team likes his defense, they need to believe that he can be at least a decent hitter in order to give him any kind of significant signing bonus. Could that team be out there? Sure. There's a reason I used words such as "likely". I'm not making any declarations of fact. Just giving my opinions.

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Assuming—big assumption, I know—that his signing bonus and NIL deal are in the same ballpark, if he wants to play in the bigs, he’d be better off starting his professional development as soon as possible. He’s been a 3-year starter in the SEC. Was the starting SS on a NC team. Can’t see another year doing much except making him a year older. And I think a lot of fans underestimate how much having a CWS title in their pockets affects players. That’s why title teams get so gutted every year. They’ve had that experience.

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I think what I said was pretty evenly thought out, regarding this. I stated that it comes down to whether or not he wants to start his pro career. If that's what he wants to do, then that's what he should do. But in terms of development, there isn't a large difference between A-ball and the SEC in terms of the high end stuff he will face. So if it's about money, my thinking is that he probably doesn't get a bonus offer that LSU can't match. And if so, does he want to go pro, anyway, and toil in the minors in front of barely any fans in games that don't matter, or play another year in the SEC and try to improve his game (not his draft stock, but his game) and then go pro and carry those improvements forward? That's up to him. I don't know what he wants to do.

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Again, dude started—as a freshman—on a NC team. Dogpiled in Omaha. I don’t think he gives 2 shits about how this year’s team compares historically to previous LSU teams. I mean, I’m sure he’s disappointed in it, but it’s going to factor into his decision absolutely zero. As it should.

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You don't "think" he gives a crap about it. I said "I could see" him not wanting to go out like that. Because, believe it or not, some people care about those things. And knowing he'll still have leverage, I could see it. But I said I don't think it will happen. Yeah, he's won a NC already, but if it were me - and this is why I have this line of thinking - it would not sit well with me that I left on such a low note. It matters to me, and it has mattered to other players. It doesn't matter to everyone, and maybe it doesn't to Curiel.

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We could. But he helped this program win its 8th CWS Championship 11 months ago. He’s done enough. And adding another high schooler that came to LSU and went into the 1st round after just 2 years is probably a bigger long-term feather in Jay’s cap than anything DC could do next season. He’s leaving. As he should.

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I'm not disputing anything you're saying about what he's already done. I don't know why that even needs to be said. But to dismiss how much he would help coming back on the basis that he's "done enough" really doesn't make any sense to me. You say this as if I have suggested that Derek owes us something. I said no such thing, however. You say he's leaving, and I've said he probably is. But he's the only one who actually knows.