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re: REMINDER--Coach O is the ultimate team player.

Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:50 am to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28657 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:50 am to
How is he the "ultimate team player" simply because he has a relatively low salary? The reason O has that salary is because at the time he was named permanent head coach NO OTHER SCHOOL IN AMERICA was interested in hiring Ed as their HC. His HC market was either LSU or nowhere. If he wanted to be a HC he essentially had to accept what LSU was offering.

O is being paid EXACTLY the amount the market dictates he should be getting paid when one considers that his ONLY market is LSU. Now, could that change after this year and other schools be willing to attempt to outspend LSU and hire Ed away? Maybe. But until that happens there is no reason to significantly increase his salary. Otherwise, LSU would just be unnecessarily bidding against itself
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28657 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 8:59 am to
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For those saying he didn't deserve more, you may be correct, and you may not. Can you justify what Herman "deserved" or Taggart or most of the list? Nope. Saban and Dabo? Okay. The rest of that list? Nah, not really.


"Deserve" has nothing to do with it. It's simple supply and demand. Herman and Taggart have higher salaries because their demand was higher than O's. Taggart was the HC at Oregon. Obviously Oregon wasn't looking to fire him after one season. But FSU wanted him, so that meant they had to make it financially appealable for him to leave OU.

Obviously LSU fans know Herman was in demand when UT hired him. Houston was willing to pay significant money to keep him and UT was ready to get into a bidding war with both LSU and Houston to hire him. Herman had all the leverage in the negotiations because he was in high demand. That demand allowed him to secure a big contract.

Ed had ZERO demand outside of LSU. Because of that he had ZERO leverage. If he wanted to be a HC it was either take was LSU is offering or not be a HC anywhere. You can't negotiate a higher salary if no one else is willing to pay you that salary
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17241 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:03 am to
CEO was lucky to get hired and was paid the right amount at the time. This season will get him PAID. You compared him to several people that probably are not comparable. If they offered CEO $10m after this year, you better believe he would take it.

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Willie Taggart


About the most comparable on the list, loosing lifetime record. Did have P5 HC experience.

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Dan Mullen


Won a Miss State and OC for multiple NC teams

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Gus Malzahn


Led team to NC and coordinated another

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Kirby Smart


Led team to NC and coordinated several others

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Tom Herman


Anomaly. Texas is rich and wanted to outbid others.

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Jimbo Fisher


Won a NC and coordinated other

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Jim Harbaugh


Led team to a Superbowl, rebuilt Stanford

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Dabo Swinney


No comments needed.

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Nick Saban


No comments needed.

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57984 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:06 am to
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0 shows how much of a "team player" he is when things go south and he cannot throw people under the bus fast enough. See post-Troy. See the way he handled Canada throughout that season. Everything you cite was his survival tactics just to get a job his resume said he didn't deserve.


Good. Let the hate flow through you. Also “0” is played out
Posted by KingDaddyRabbit
Angola State Prison
Member since Oct 2019
1124 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 9:36 am to
If Ed O wins the SEC Championship, makes it into the playoffs, or both, he probably will get a substantial raise and a contract extension. If he wins a natty, that substantial raise will be even greater.
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 10:38 am to
This is what we were sold on when he was hired.

Say we have a budget of $10/year for coaching salaries. We could either have:

Jimbo (7.5)
Shitty assistants or ones who will leave at the drop of a hat if they get offered another gig (2.5)

or

CEO (4)
Some of the best assistants in the country and won't leave due to money (6)

That extra 3.5 goes a loooooong way. It's what has allowed us to keep Aranda and what will let us to keep Brady.
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
17987 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 10:40 am to
I love it that Coach 0 is exceeding expectations, but this false narrative of "team player" is just silly. No need to revise the past just because things are good right now in the we-undefeated pre-Bama phase of our season, which is always the high point and not really anything new. Let's hope we break through in 2 weeks. Otherwise, keep Ed's assistants away from oncoming busses.
Posted by thanksjhester
Sonic
Member since Jun 2009
5414 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 10:56 am to
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You must have another definition for rolling
Rolling downhill like a snowball headed for hell. Credit Merle
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 10:57 am to
did he turn down more money for the team or did he take the most they would give him?
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 10:59 am to
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Tell LSU’s ultimate team player his special teams coach needs an arse chewing.

you've got to move on to a different subject grandma
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27540 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 11:04 am to
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See the way he handled Canada throughout that season.


He had a belligerent drunk on staff.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13074 posts
Posted on 10/30/19 at 11:10 am to
Orgeron will get paid if he wins the SEC this year. He will get seriously paid if he wins the national championship this year.
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