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Posted on 11/4/12 at 2:57 pm to Ole Geauxt
Bama made some terrible coaching hires after Stallings. They wanted a "bama guy" and it cost them.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:01 pm to Topwater Trout
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Is Gundy a better coach since he has had more success at Ok. St.
I think miles is a good recruiter not a great one. A great recruiter would bring in elite QBs. It's hard to recruit them though when they see the success your offense has had throwing the ball. A great recruiter would sell them on LSU making them overlook how bad the passing game is. Agree or disagree?
Disagree with your premise. Elite QBs avoid the SEC like the plague because of the defenses here. As a rule, if they aren't home grown they aren't coming here. Why would they when they could go to high profile schools in weak conferences like USC or Stanford and not have to worry about ending up on a stretcher every game?
If I were a top QB I would want nothing to do with the SEC. I think the ones that do are quite frankly a little crazy. AJ McCarron is the best QB Saban has had and he's from Bama. If Louisiana develops any blue chip QBs we'd have a great chance of bringing one of them in.
This post was edited on 11/4/12 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:03 pm to Topwater Trout
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Miami has shite facilities.
FSU doesn't, why did they fall off? Alabama did not before Saban got there. Texas and OU didn't before Brown and Stoops.
Yeah, being an elite powerhouse helps with recruiting. Its why we can get guys like Pocic and Retting from Il and Ca for 2013, but credit for all that winning goes to Miles.
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Is Gundy a better coach since he has had more success at Ok. St.
Gundy has done a great job, but T Boone has given them a lot of money to build up the program in recent years.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:03 pm to BeeFense5
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You are really saying that Dinardo is a better recruiter than miles? Come on. It's obvious that you have blind hatred towards miles but your statement is totally asinine.
Dinardo recruited way over his head. Les doesn't. Where are the great QBs if he is such a great recruiter?
I like miles. I just hate the way some fans suck him off so much. He gets paid 4 million a year. He should be grateful to have such a great job.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:03 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:Gosh, I don't know.. Going by your theory, he must not be, cause Les set the foundation and make OK State. Gundy is using Les's mojo, toothpaste, etc. What good players Gundy happens to get is going there because of what Les did 8 years ago, right?(sarcasm in case you didnt know)
Is Gundy a better coach since he has had more success at Ok. St.
You remind me alot of my wife that I love dearly, but a severe case of tunnel vision. You pick out a single leaf on a tree and can't see anything else. Your statement of Dinardo being a better recruiter was comedy gold..
Have a good one..
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:09 pm to Ole Geauxt
It's funny you say that because I was asking the question for all the people who say miles is a better coach than saban. Funny thing is most of them will never answer because even they realize they can't bc it would defeat their arguement.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:11 pm to Topwater Trout
dammit, i said i was gonna be quiet, but i cant help it....
dumas
quote:No shite, feller.... Did LSU make a "terrible coaching hire" by hiring Les? I'd get tired after about 50, but I bet that I could name a bunch of schools that would love to have LSU's record after hiring such a terrible coach and terrible recruiter.... You're right,,, we should have kept Dinardo... i'm usually a once a day bowel movement sort of guy around 6 am,, but, you're giving me another one..
Bama made some terrible coaching hires after Stallings. They wanted a "bama guy" and it cost them.
dumas
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:13 pm to Topwater Trout
LSU Tigers now > LSU Tigers under Saban
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:14 pm to Goldrush25
Georgia always gets good QBs. Stafford was from Texas.
Bama has a great QB recruit for next year don't they?
Bama has a great QB recruit for next year don't they?
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:18 pm to Ole Geauxt
You really are stupid. I have NEVER said Miles was a bad hire/ coach or I want another coach. Keep Dinardo? 
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:23 pm to Topwater Trout
On phone in bathroom , I didn't play for either of those coaches, don't know which one gets most out of what he' s got. So I can't say. I have my opinion though.
Btw, both make mistakes. I know some don't think so, Sabans just a human. Gasp!
Btw, both make mistakes. I know some don't think so, Sabans just a human. Gasp!
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:27 pm to Topwater Trout
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Dinardo recruited way over his head. Les doesn't. Where are the great QBs if he is such a great recruiter?
I'm usually one of the first to give Gerry D credit, but come on.
He did a bad job recruiting QB's from 2006-2010. Looks like its been corrected, we'll see.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:31 pm to H-Town Tiger
Htown, forget it. You're arguing with my wife, surely. we're all stupid and retarded.
we're all stupid and retarded.Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:38 pm to dukke v
great OP
Dukke - opinion not fact - miles would have a great run at tuscaloosa
saban is very good but he has had some bad beats at bama too - Louisiana - Monroe, the meltdown against cam newton
Dukke - opinion not fact - miles would have a great run at tuscaloosa
saban is very good but he has had some bad beats at bama too - Louisiana - Monroe, the meltdown against cam newton
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:39 pm to H-Town Tiger
I'm usually one of the first to give Gerry D credit, but come on.
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I think you are missing the point. Dinardo did recruit very well under the circumstances. He was recruiting kids to a program that had just gone through some terrible years. Miami, FSU, Michigan, Colorado, Nebraska etc were coming into La and getting our best players. He did stem the bleeding. Saban came in and really locked down the state.
LSU now has top notch facilities and is a winning program...makes recruiting easier.
If you were a car salesman would you rather sell BMWs or Hyundai?
Posted on 11/4/12 at 3:40 pm to Hoodoo Man
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LSU Tigers now > LSU Tigers under Saban
Alabama under Saban > LSU under Miles
Posted on 11/4/12 at 4:16 pm to Topwater Trout
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I think you are missing the point. Dinardo did recruit very well under the circumstances. He was recruiting kids to a program that had just gone through some terrible years. Miami, FSU, Michigan, Colorado, Nebraska etc were coming into La and getting our best players. He did stem the bleeding. Saban came in and really locked down the state.
LSU now has top notch facilities and is a winning program...makes recruiting easier.
You are going out of your way to not give Les Miles credit. There are lots of place that have top notch facilities and don't recruit the talent that Les Miles does. Of course you have better success recruiting at bigger programs. Saban could not have done what he's done at LSU and Alabama at Mich State.
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If you were a car salesman would you rather sell BMWs or Hyundai?
That's not a good analogy. I'd rather sell Hyundai's, you'd sell a lot more of them.
Posted on 11/4/12 at 4:59 pm to Lsupimp
I agree with the OP here. I'll probably get the ban hammer for saying this but NO ONE outside of Louisiana considered LSU an elite program when Saban left. Most of the country didn't even consider us 2003 National Champs! You are kidding yourself if you think people saw the program then the way they do now. I'm not taking anything away from Coach Saban. I love to hate him now because he coached the Gumps but I remember what LSU football was like before he got here and I appreciate what he did for the program. All I'm saying is that, when you compare their records at LSU, no one can honestly say that all Miles has done is "sustain." He's done some building of his own. Maybe he doesn't measure up to the coach that Saban is now (maybe) but please tell me who does? Who comes closer? Anyone who might make that list has the privilege of coaching in another conference instead of the same division in the same conference as Saban. No one else in the country gives that ole boy hell year in and year out.
Posted on 11/24/12 at 8:04 pm to Lsupimp
Good point Pimp.
Maybe you should bump this thread when The Sabinista faction goes full throttle retard.
Maybe you should bump this thread when The Sabinista faction goes full throttle retard.
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