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re: Regarding Jay’s late inning decisions

Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:57 pm to
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 9:57 pm to
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I have to ask - do you actually think that was a called play from the LSU dugout to send Merrifield?



Absolutely was planned. Easier to steal a run there than Pearson getting a hit off the lefty.
Posted by easy money
Member since Feb 2005
14420 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:01 pm to
Morgan can bunt, but nobody can bunt a pitch over your head. Morgan is exactly the type of player that can execute a bunt in that spot, he just didn’t. Especially with him being lefty and you want to push to 3b.

I get the call. I get that Tre has been stroking too. I’d likely have him bunt there too with the belief that he’s likely bunting for a hit with 3b holding on coverage. Bases loaded for Dugas with a wonky strike zone.

Posted by FriscoTiger
Frisco, TX
Member since Aug 2005
3502 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:05 pm to
Should have pinch run Kling for Beloso. Kling makes it a closer play at the plate.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
8286 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:05 pm to
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It’s similar to asking a drop-back passing QB to run an option pitch play


THIS. Bunting, especially with an aluminum bat, takes a lot of practice and more importantly, game experience to get comfortable doing it. The level of kids we are getting out of high school have likely not been asked to bunt outside of a cage their entire baseball life.

And to continue the football reference, a run heavy football offense isn't to suddenly go 5 wide for a series and throw the ball around.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
73856 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:08 pm to
If JJ is making those calls he’s in over his head, they were stupid calls
Posted by DBG
vermont
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:10 pm to
Go to bed
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
6772 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:11 pm to
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Absolutely was planned. Easier to steal a run there than Pearson getting a hit off the lefty.


Yeah, that makes sense. Merrifield got an awful jump. I guess what confused me is every time I see a called play like that the runner doesn’t try to go back to first, he tries to get caught in a rundown and let the runner cross home before he’s tagged out.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:41 pm
Posted by Pintail
Member since Nov 2011
10462 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:46 pm to
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I’d say it looks like our team hasn’t practiced bunting since middle school. Pop ups basically every time


Because I can almost guarantee you not a single one of them has been asked to but since middle school. You are talking about a bunch of guys that have been the best players on their team through high school. I would venture to say 90% of SEC players never dropped a bunt down in high school.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59125 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:06 pm to
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bunting


quote:

In a vacuum, it’s a good call.


Bunting is never a good call,
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4347 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:15 pm to
Jj and this team are fighters. No matter what happens this showed out.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
59240 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:25 pm to
quote:

Tre messed that up.


Nope. 100% on Jay.

quote:

You call a bunt and expect that your players don’t bunt balls over their head.


How could he expect anything, when we obviously never do it. There’s no way we practice it enough to know what to expect. And what has Tre Morgan ever done in a game to justify expecting him to be able to do anything on a play he’s never asked to do?

Besides that, you don’t fricking bunt with a runner on 1st and 2nd with no outs and you’re 3, 4, 5 guys up. People can try to justify it, but you’re simply wrong. Anecdotally, you’re wrong. And analytically, you’re wrong. Jay fricked up. Again.
After doing the exact same fricking thing twice last night with the exact same fricking results every single time.

I love Jay, but he coached scared and went away from what we are and who we’ve been all season. Hopefully he learns from it.
Posted by Hot Carl
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59240 posts
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:36 pm to
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His mistake was putting Merrifield at second instead of the faster Kling


That was something else I noticed. I get that they were on 1st and 2nd when they went in, and you want the faster Kling to be able to score on a double. But when it happened that it was Merrifield at 3rd, just don’t do it. He had zero chance. A team like Wake Forest practices that situation. We weren’t gonna catch them off guard, they weren’t gonna panic, and they were gonna make a good throw and get our guy by 10 feet. Because they are really well coached and practice the little things like that. That play is for high school’s who don’t practice it and are more likely to either be totally caught off guard or freak out and make a terrible throw. Unless you have a super fast runner on 3rd. We did it in college because we had a guy who ran the fastest 60 in the country.

And the guy was struggling with his command. He walks Pearson and we have Crews up with the bases loaded. Again, Jay doing something we don’t do. That’s not our identity.
Posted by nps6724
Member since Mar 2019
231 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 12:49 am to
I would bet the reason Merrifield ran for Beloso and Kling for Jobert is for defensive reasons.
Posted by WAY2GOLSU
Stick Red
Member since Dec 2007
1349 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:02 am to
Our path to the championship will not be by bunting.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
6379 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:22 am to
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His mistake was putting Merrifield at second instead of the faster Kling


Kling was going to right field B9.
Posted by WhoDat9090
Member since Oct 2019
1453 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 1:45 am to
Another thing to think about is by letting the Pearson at bat play out either he gets a hit, we score, he walks we get Crews with the bases loaded, he is out and if we happen to bat again Crews leads off instead of Pearson. Instead we take a longshot gamble there.

Another thought - Wouldn’t it have been better to have Kling get caught in a run down and Merrifield score while they are chasing Kling ?
Posted by BawtHouse
Member since Dec 2021
197 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 6:05 am to
You gonna criticize all of his decisions from last night? Or just the ones that didn’t work out? Overall strategy was solid. All decisions filtered through that overall strategy. It’s very easy to point at one or two that didn’t work out, but to act like any of us making all the decisions instead of Jay is beyond dumb. Armchair elsewhere.
Posted by JackandWater
Member since Apr 2020
137 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 6:16 am to
It’s a very common play that most schools run. The runner at third executed poorly. He needs to start home right when the lefty starts his motion. If the lefty throws home he can always go back.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14538 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 6:16 am to
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2 on, no out, bunting with Tre Morgan- In a vacuum, it’s a good call. But Tre is red hot and I think a lefty bunting against THAT lefty pitcher was going to be really tough. He had some wicked angles. Overall, didn’t agree.

1st and 3rd play- Honestly, no issue. You have Pearson up against that same lefty, really difficult AB. Tried to swipe 1 insurance run. Probably could have been executed better by Merrifield, but decision wise I thought it was fine.



Agreed, no issue with sending Merrifield, taking a hot bat out of Morgan's hands I did - but enjoyed the win - Geaux Tigers!!
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
9001 posts
Posted on 6/22/23 at 6:30 am to
Runs have been very hard to come by. I do not mind bunting Tre there. Our hitters have to do better with laying down the bunts. Bunting to get the guys over to 2nd and 3rd one out with Dugas at the plate was 100% the right decision. Dugas has been seeing the ball really well in Omaha and hitting the ball hard. One of those he hit last night was 112 MPH off the bat. Thats a HR in any other circumstance without that wind, ball was crushed. The wind has been killer for every team.
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