re: Reasons O should remain HC past Monday am

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None of this has anything to do with emotion, either.

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It’s just about all emotionally fueled

I get the frustration, I want him gone. I just don’t think there is a reason to rush

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Reasons O should remain HC past Monday am

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You think a whole staff is going to keep recruiting if you fire the coach tomorrow when they all know they won’t be there?

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Woodward can make more progress toward a new hire with O gone. There isn’t a debate to be had here. The sooner he makes the hire, the sooner a new coach and staff are on the trail after they are officially announced. This isn’t rocket science.

As for recruiting down the stretch, anyone who wants a good job after this? Yeah, I do think they will recruit. Maybe not if we wait until the very end, but they will if you make a move sooner. Guys like Raymond and Davis who will have a shot to stay on absolutely will.

On the flip side, you have a volatile head coach with his back against the wall lame duck recruiting and being peppered with questions about his job security. Please tell me how this fricking helps anything. Tell me how that goes off without O exploding on someone and closing the door on a commitment for good?

We can already see that O isn’t going to play some of the younger guys over vets unless he has to or there are injuries. He’s in save arse mode. We need the younger guys on the field, even if they get their asses beat learning on the fly, and O will not do it. You have to do what you can to prevent a mass exodus and those kids riding the pine doesn’t even give you a prayer. At least letting them know they are the future gives the next coach a fighting chance.

Again, I’m not saying any of this is good, but making the break before the end of the season HAS to happen. It’s by far the better option.

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The reason miles got fired early and a reason to fire O is it prevented any rallying to the cause like miles achieved after the tamu win.

I don’t think that it would happen with orgeron but it is a risk given he manipulated the media during his interim stint.

If you fire now at a low point it locks it in

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I don’t think this is of any real concern if you’re making process-oriented decisions

New hire is probably a top 10 coach who is currently trying to win a conference title and or a National Title. They Will not comitt to another school.

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Miles was cut a year too late

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more like 5 years

i knew we were done with him after ole miss 2009. which is even longer

anomaly 2011 happened but he still shite bed in natty

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Assuming LSU were to hire an employed coach, when do you think they can take over the team ?

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I don’t understand why you can’t follow some very simple logic. A good AD working with the major agents who represent college coaches can have a very good idea who will be interested and who won’t be, have their primary list together, talk contract must haves and staff budgets, etc.

If Woodward handles it right, we could be interviewing anyone not in a conference championship game that week and anyone who might be the week after. No one stays for bowl games anymore unless it’s the playoff and the only guy you might be looking at in that position would be Fickell. Anyone else but him you could potentially have signed as soon as the week after the championship games. With the USC job already open, you have to be moving this quickly. New hires immediately hit the ground running in recruiting and with no bowl to worry about, all time can be focused on that and meeting with current players.

If you wait weeks like you seem to be advocating, half the roster will be gone to the portal without even an opportunity to keep them here and the new hire will have less time to salvage the early signing period. Sounds like a great plan.

As for vets playing over young guys who need a shot to develop, just look at fricking LB and Safety.

And let’s talk about Nuss. Does he give you a better shot to win games today? Not sure. He will make mistakes and I wouldn’t expect him to win games with so much pressure on him thanks to the O Line and poor run support. Is he more physically talented than Johnson? I laughed just typing that. Any head coach not trying to save his own arse right now would be playing the kid to get a jump on next year. He and Howard are the future and the worst thing that could happen here is him leaving in the portal and Johnson staying. If you can’t see that, then I don’t know what to tell you.

You want an example of a coach with the balls to make the tough call- look at Lincoln Riley yesterday. He has a guy in Rattler who is very talented and was a Heisman favorite heading into the season. But he’s obviously struggling and it’s not all clicking for him like it should. Riley didn’t coddle him. He pulled him, somehow rotated him and Caleb Williams in a way that made sense and got a huge comeback win. Trying to save your own arse and coaching scared doesn’t get you that. And I’m not even going to bother getting into Saban and Tua in the title game.

You get rid of O, put the ball in Nuss and the young guys’ hands and look to the future now. Riding the ship down could be a disaster if we lose either Nuss or Howard in the process.

Why do people think the teams going to play better after they fire him? More likely would get much worse. Makes zero difference whether you do it now or later. All firing him now would do is appease the board which should never be a reason to do anything.

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If they fire him now, or 6 weeks from now, a coach isn’t being hired any faster.

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This is pure bullshite. Totally false. Making the move before the end of the season allows the background work to move faster and without risks. You just have no idea what the frick you are talking about.

I don’t have to mention names. The young safeties besides Toles (who is terrible) are all cleared now and ready to go, yet hardly see the field. Davis was a early enrollee. Other than Burns, they are all MIA or special teams only. Name a young LB who plays a large number of meaningful snaps. Let’s do DEs next.

I mentioned Nuss by name. Please tell me how Johnson is the more talented QB and should be starting over him with the season where it is.

Again, you have nothing so you talk some shite and walk away.

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Making the move before the end of the season allows the background work to move faster and without risks

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lol this process has already started. You don't need the coach to be gone to start this. I dont think you understand how this works at all.


You think they are going to wait to vet coaches until Oregeron is fired? Is that what you are saying?


On another note, When do you think other coaches will actually be able to go through the interview process? Have you followed a coaching search before?