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re: Realism for LSU Fans with McMahon and Program
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:20 pm to UnoMe
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:20 pm to UnoMe
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You’re…X2. Thanks for that picture of your ignorance.
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and you do?
Actually yes, that’s the point of this post. We are going to get sanctions. are you following?
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Because Wade fricked up, You think the new coach don't have smart people hired?
You, like others, are missing the point. We just essentially gave a mid-major risky hire coach a 9 year contract. Woodward overpays and overreaches for people. Woody’s timing of firing has set off a chain reaction to show we should have no confidence in what is happening.
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You got proof any of this happened vs NCAA having proof of Wade and his transgressions
You mean like the other 20 schools with “allegations”, all the Zion stuff, Calipari leaving all his former schools in ruin, etc etc? I mean if you need me to link a trillion articles ankhs illegal recruiting I can. I mean…did Dale Brown not get forced out? If LSU does it, every decent team does it. Ignorant not to realize this
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Which is why I think you are being emotional about being setback 10 years, "Paying" is the norm now through NIL, Go make you some money and belly up to the table and give it to a 17-18 year old that doesn't give 2 shits about Baton Roge/Louisiana or me or you. Just looking for the next hand out.
AND THIS…THIS is what I speak of!!!!!! Woodward does not care about basketball. He cares about football. LSU basketball fans are literally stupid. I’ve spent years and years fighting a losing battle. Will Wade got such little support, he had to pay out of his own pocket. Everyone makes fun, but he was doing what he had to to compete. We cannot give NIL deals out to basketball players cuz they’re tied up in football and baseball. Our recruiting won’t be in the same realm as it was. I am just blown away people think this will be a similar program.
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:26 pm to LSUButt
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the NCAA is going to come down on us.
Why? LSU didn't know what WW was doing and fired him as soon as charges were announced.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:27 pm to ellessuuuu
I never said it means Wade MUST be fired or can never work again. You cited light recruiting restrictions which I assumed you pulled from the article. If not, fine.
But again, if Wade has significant recruiting restrictions, which I think we can all agree would be likely, what’s the point of keeping him? I’m all for saying frick the ncaa but at some point enough is enough.
I can’t find a single example of a coach that remained at his current program with an active show cause.
But again, if Wade has significant recruiting restrictions, which I think we can all agree would be likely, what’s the point of keeping him? I’m all for saying frick the ncaa but at some point enough is enough.
I can’t find a single example of a coach that remained at his current program with an active show cause.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:27 pm to drizztiger
I appreciate him as well with all the previews he did for upcoming games and the analyst read it every game. The gist is everyone does 'it" but Wade is singled out, and Woodard threw Wade under the bus and fired him and LSU has no more cards to play.
Sometimes in poker you have to fold pocket THE "Aces" to play the long game(What LSU and you guys thought we had in Wade) but when the flop shows a pair on the board and the NCAA raises you after the flop, You have a couple choices:
1.) Carry on with a losing hand to lose even more
2.) Bluff (Woodward knew the odds at this point, not an option)
3.) Call & See the turn card-which is where you guys are.
Woodward/LSU and I'm sure more than enough other people says let fold "wade" reshuffle and redeal for the next hand.
Sometimes in poker you have to fold pocket THE "Aces" to play the long game(What LSU and you guys thought we had in Wade) but when the flop shows a pair on the board and the NCAA raises you after the flop, You have a couple choices:
1.) Carry on with a losing hand to lose even more
2.) Bluff (Woodward knew the odds at this point, not an option)
3.) Call & See the turn card-which is where you guys are.
Woodward/LSU and I'm sure more than enough other people says let fold "wade" reshuffle and redeal for the next hand.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:34 pm to LSUButt
At least we can get out of this contract easily if McMahon proves to be on the dud side of these mid major hires….
Wait what ??
Wait what ??
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:35 pm to LSUButt
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We cannot give NIL deals out to basketball players cuz they’re tied up in football and baseball
How long has NIL been "legal", not even a basketball cycle.
again emotional
Posted on 3/22/22 at 11:39 pm to LSUButt
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Keeping Wade around would have the same, possible less impact.
This statement alone proves you are a complete and total dumbass.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 12:00 am to LSUButt
This starts and ends with Wade. He made his bed. The end
Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:34 am to DBG
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So if Wade has a 10 year show cause, LSU has 10 years of penalties.
That's bullshite. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:52 am to ellessuuuu
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He brings in a fairly inexpensive coach who will be squeaky clean and sign classes in the bottom half of the conference. May overachieve every once in a while, but will not consistently win in this league.
$20.3 million over the next seven years before incentives is "fairly inexpensive??? WTF you talkin' 'bout, Willis?
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 2:54 am
Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:52 am to LSUButt
We will be fine. Gordon will pay all the new recruits.NCAA no longer rules.Money does.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 2:56 am to SOL2
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Gordon will pay all the new recruits.
Sure, next thing you know everyone associated with TAF will have to slam on their brakes in front of an 18 wheeler to maintain their membership?
Posted on 3/23/22 at 3:07 am to LSUButt
frick off loser
Posted on 3/23/22 at 4:02 am to LSUButt
I don’t see how you can read the allegations and feel that woodward had much of a choice. Maybe he could have waited till after the ncaa tournament but if he did that then it would be constant questions from the media and negative talk about the school.
Once they were made public he had to act imo . His allegations looked a lot worse than the others schools I’ve read about that kept the coach. The only ones that were as bad as wades were fired as well.
I don’t think woodward disliked wade , he just disliked probably being lied to . I’m sure he asked wade and I’m sure wade denied it. Once he lied to woodward he was screwed.
Y’all act like woodward doesn’t want to win or something. He wouldn’t have even been close to being fired if this Never happened.
We won’t suck for a decade, look at other schools like baylor and the way they came back and won a natty and we’re constant 1 seeds. Lsu has the same potential as baylor did.
We will be ok as soon as we’re allowed to play in the post season. Look at auburn , they had one year where they self imposed a post season ban, that was last year, and they sucked for one year . The next year they were number 1 in the nation for a couple weeks.
This coach we hired is about the same ,as far as his resume , that wade was when we hired him. If we hang on to a few guys we have already and hit the portal for some guys that are under the radar then we may be decent , but it’s not really that big of a deal if we’re banned from the post season anyway.
As long as we’re good when we can play in the postseason then that’s all that matters.
We can find shooters in the portal and go that route. We may have to try to keep Gaines and Williams and surround them with shooters out of the portal , coach that type of offense up , then we could possibly be .500 in conference.
Once they were made public he had to act imo . His allegations looked a lot worse than the others schools I’ve read about that kept the coach. The only ones that were as bad as wades were fired as well.
I don’t think woodward disliked wade , he just disliked probably being lied to . I’m sure he asked wade and I’m sure wade denied it. Once he lied to woodward he was screwed.
Y’all act like woodward doesn’t want to win or something. He wouldn’t have even been close to being fired if this Never happened.
We won’t suck for a decade, look at other schools like baylor and the way they came back and won a natty and we’re constant 1 seeds. Lsu has the same potential as baylor did.
We will be ok as soon as we’re allowed to play in the post season. Look at auburn , they had one year where they self imposed a post season ban, that was last year, and they sucked for one year . The next year they were number 1 in the nation for a couple weeks.
This coach we hired is about the same ,as far as his resume , that wade was when we hired him. If we hang on to a few guys we have already and hit the portal for some guys that are under the radar then we may be decent , but it’s not really that big of a deal if we’re banned from the post season anyway.
As long as we’re good when we can play in the postseason then that’s all that matters.
We can find shooters in the portal and go that route. We may have to try to keep Gaines and Williams and surround them with shooters out of the portal , coach that type of offense up , then we could possibly be .500 in conference.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 4:33 am to LSUButt
In what fantasy world do you live in? Have you actually read the allegations and the utter disregard, nay the stupidity of our former coach? The guy never took our basketball program past the 2nd round in the NCAA tournament. He had to go. Woodward had NO OTHER OPTION. Stop being so uniformed and so naïve.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 4:49 am to cmacatl13
Here’s the reality for all the Wade supporters. He never consistently filled up the pmac despite his success. We had to entice the students to come to games with free food. Let it freakin go please. He’s gone and had to go because he blatantly broke the rules. If you’re a true Tiger then you’ll support any and every sport whether or not we win or lose. Stop bitching or sttdb.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:05 am to LSUButt
Louisville denied, denied, denied during the sex scandal but the NCAA didn't buy it. The evidence was too strong as it is against Wade. The NCAA vacated years of wins including a championship and accepted UL self-imposed one year post-season ban. No scholarship reductions.
Then, while on probation, UL is implicated in the FBI/Nike scandal. Even though there was no evidence Pitino was involved he was fired. UL is still awaiting NCAA resolution as is LSU and several other schools. If the NCAA was going to bring the death penalty they would have already done so. This "investigation" is what, four, five years in now? The schools implicated have already faced financial and competitive disadvantages for years simply from the consequences of being accused. And now the NCAA has sanctioned paying players. It's like getting arrested for pot in Colorado the year before it became legal and going to court after. Do you really think the judge is going to throw the book at the offender at that point?
The NCAA will likely accept whatever penalties LSU self-imposes. I think you guys crying worse case scenario are off base.
Then, while on probation, UL is implicated in the FBI/Nike scandal. Even though there was no evidence Pitino was involved he was fired. UL is still awaiting NCAA resolution as is LSU and several other schools. If the NCAA was going to bring the death penalty they would have already done so. This "investigation" is what, four, five years in now? The schools implicated have already faced financial and competitive disadvantages for years simply from the consequences of being accused. And now the NCAA has sanctioned paying players. It's like getting arrested for pot in Colorado the year before it became legal and going to court after. Do you really think the judge is going to throw the book at the offender at that point?
The NCAA will likely accept whatever penalties LSU self-imposes. I think you guys crying worse case scenario are off base.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:17 am to LSUButt
You make a bunch of excellent points as you usually do. But this stuff here...
This is all pretty ridiculous.
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Woodward has now allowed the NCAA to destroy us.
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woodward signed off on this death sentence
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Woodward has set our new coach up for failure
This is all pretty ridiculous.
Posted on 3/23/22 at 5:56 am to TigerLunatik
The sanctions won't be that bad if the ncaa is going to come down so hard on LSU then they would have to do it with all the so called blue bloods look Calipari had an axe to grind with wade got his butt buddies in the media involved and it took off from there,most AD's when they get hired like to hire there own coaches hence the opportunity to move on from wade arrived and Woodward pounced on it.As they say like it or not next coach up
Posted on 3/23/22 at 6:27 am to LSUButt
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Because he has 5 level 1 infractions, same as Bill Self. 4 of which are complete abs utter accusations with zero proof. There is one that sticks and it dates back to VCU in which he went to the FBI. If you fight for him it’s a slap on the wrist
Just for the sake of getting the facts right:
1) LSU bb got 6 Level 1's.
2) All of the allegations have been determined to be true with the evidence in a separate document that hasn't been released.
3) the violation involving the extortion was not from VCU. It involved Naz Reid and hid gf.
4) fighting for Wade would not help LSU at all and would be pointless once he is hit with a show cause.
This post was edited on 3/23/22 at 6:29 am
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