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re: Raymond to interview at uga

Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:31 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:31 pm to
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Well, when you look at the other coaches on the staff I'd feel disrespected too.

Why? If I was the top paid coach in my field, I wouldn't feel disrespected
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Doesn't matter what his market value is or where he's in it.

ok
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I'm willing to bet money Georgia or another program would love to have his services to pay more than LSU.

are you going to say this when Raymond is still coaching here next year?
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 6:32 pm
Posted by GaTiger27
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:33 pm to
PAY THE MAN!!!
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33892 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:35 pm to
What was Sullivan's salary relative to WR coaches in CFB?
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 6:35 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71255 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:36 pm to
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What was Sullivan's salary relative to WR coaches in CFB?

I have no idea. Why do you think that's relevant?

Here's a list of all the assistant salaries nationally. Have fun
LINK
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 6:38 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50946 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:37 pm to
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You give Cooper credit for Patrick Peterson

link?


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SO, like I said, the majority were either coached or recruited by Cooper, not Raymond. Sure I don't want Raymond to leave, but we will be fine if he does all the same.


You listed 4 players that were recruited or coached by Cooper to make the point that he created DBU, did you not? You used Patrick Peterson in that list, did you not?
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
7806 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:38 pm to
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he's tired of being treated like it, and I don't blame him. There's a reason why other programs would kill to have him.

How has LSU mistreated him? He's the highest paid coach at his position. Do you know why he feels this way?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71255 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:40 pm to
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You listed 4 players that were recruited or coached by Cooper to make the point that he created DBU, did you not? You used Patrick Peterson in that list, did you not?

I listed 4 players that were not coached or recruited by Raymond.

I did say the majority of the current NFL guys were either coached or recruited by Cooper, which is a true statement.

Anything else you'd like to add? I mean we've already established DBU pre-dated Raymond and that Raymond is the highest paid DBs coach in the country. We've also established he hasn't accepted a new job. Not sure what else you'd like to discuss at this point unless you just like to be a sky screamer every time something is rumored to maybe change.
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 6:42 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
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Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:41 pm to
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How has LSU mistreated him? He's the highest paid coach at his position. Do you know why he feels this way?


Most of these things start with someone in their ear. Usually a family member or spouse. Not saying that’s this case, but it’s a tale as old as time.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
33974 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:41 pm to
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What was Sullivan's salary relative to WR coaches in CFB?


Sullivan wasn’t the WR coach, so not sure where you’re going with this. Regardless, irrelevant to Raymond.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71255 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:42 pm to
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How has LSU mistreated him? He's the highest paid coach at his position. Do you know why he feels this way?


They haven't. That rumor started on here and has now been accepted as fact.
Posted by VolTiger13
New Orleans, La
Member since Jul 2017
3884 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:47 pm to
Was not happy when they brought in Busch. He and Busch like each other so it hasn't been a bigger issue. Also, yeah he's the highest paid DB coach, but makes less than several other guys on the staff that he feels he pulls more weight than.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50946 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:47 pm to
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I did say the majority of the current NFL guys were either coached or recruited by Cooper, which is a true statement.


Is it? How many DBs do you think LSU has in the NFL right now?

Jamal Adams
Donte Jackson
Rickey Jefferson
Rashard Robinson
Kevin Toliver
Tre White

All signed in the 2013 class, or later.
Posted by tschla1
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2010
961 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:52 pm to
NEWS FLASH: He does pull more weight than the majority of the staff.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33892 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:58 pm to
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Was not happy when they brought in Busch. He and Busch like each other so it hasn't been a bigger issue. Also, yeah he's the highest paid DB coach, but makes less than several other guys on the staff that he feels he pulls more weight than.





Hmmmm, interesting.

Someone connected to the program says salary relative to other assistants on the staff is relevant in this situation, some random yahoo named bjorn cyborg says it's not. Who to believe?
Posted by tschla1
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2010
961 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 6:58 pm to
That may be true, but he's not the highest paid position coach on LSU's staff - even though he is by far the most valuable position coach on LSU's staff.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71255 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:04 pm to
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How many DBs do you think LSU has in the NFL right now?

a lot (btw, White committed before Raymond was hired, which I've already pointed out, but I'll let you keep him on there to avoid a nonsensical argument from you)

Patrick Peterson
Tyrann Mathieu
Mo Claiborne
Ronald Martin
Jalen Collins
Eric Reid
Ron Brooks was also just released this year

And you know what all of this goes to show? DBU is bigger than either Raymond or Cooper, which is the overarching point of all of this. The chicken little section of our fan base (i.e. you) thinks the world is ending every time anything happens you may not like. It's insane. But here you are, trying to pull at the smallest of strings trying to find out some minute point where I was wrong. You're pathetic. The fact that the numbers are even close after 7 years since Cooper has been here is pretty telling
This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 7:09 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50946 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:07 pm to
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White committed before Raymond was hired (which I've already pointed out), but I'll let you keep him on there to avoid a nonsensical argument from you.




Giving Raymond credit for a player that SIGNED with LSU in 2013 is nonsensical. That's brilliant.

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Jalen Collins


Not on a roster.

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Rob Brooks was also just released this year


Correct.

Last time I checked, 6 of 11 is a majority.

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And you know what all of this goes to show? DBU is bigger than either Raymond or Cooper, which is the overarching point of all of this. The chicken little section of our fan base (i.e. you) thinks the world is ending every time anything happens you may not like. It's insane.


Right. Saying LSU having to replace the best DB coach in the country would be a problem is just an asinine statement.

Really solid job in this thread so far.

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You're pathetic. The fact that the numbers are even close after 7 years since Cooper has been here is pretty telling




Right. It's more pathetic than throwing a bitch fit because some LSU fans don't want to see Corey Raymond leave LSU.

This post was edited on 1/12/19 at 7:10 pm
Posted by mtheob17
Charleston, SC
Member since Sep 2009
5484 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:07 pm to
And LSU will counter. Everyone understands Raymond’s value
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:08 pm to
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Busch is the better coach


Nope. Losing Raymond would be a big loss.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
296157 posts
Posted on 1/12/19 at 7:10 pm to
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And you know what all of this goes to show? DBU is bigger than either Raymond or Cooper, which is the overarching point of all of this


Absolutely
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