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re: Rally 'Round Coach O & the Tigers!

Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:10 pm to
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It just absolutely amazes me that people actually think that what some fans are saying on a message board somehow has an affect on the outcome of a football game.

Even if it were true (which it's obviously not), some posters actually demean the talent on the roster as a defense of Orgeron. One poster recently said it isn't the staff's fault if the players are too stupid to learn what they've been coached.

But criticizing Orgeron is hurting the team?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:12 pm to
"No such thing as bad student. Only bad teacha."

-Mr. Miogi
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37895 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:21 pm to
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Rally 'Round Coach O & the Tigers


It's fricking April, dude. I'll save my energy for the next game, which is like 5 months from now.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:32 pm to
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Slinger

And here I thought I couldn't dislike you any more than I do already.

It takes true determination to be that annoying. Congrats
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:41 pm to
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If O can get anywhere near Miles, 1-2 SEC Championships +1-2 more appearances, at least 1 NC in the next 5 years. I will HAPPILY eat crow. If "Eating crow" means O performs slightly above what I expect him to do, meaning at best a 10-3 season, maybe a bunch of 9-4 seasons and some 8-5/7-6 types seasons. Yeah that's not crow. If O AT HIS BEST does no better than the Miles average, then there is no crow to eat, even if the O fans say it is.

I don't think anyone would disagree with that (other than the eating crow part, no one needs to eat any crow, I think we all want the same thing). Let's just get behind the team, pull for these tigers, and see what happens.

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even if the O fans


I don't really think many people (other than maybe their moms) are really fans of a particular coach. But if a coach is the HC of the tigers then they should want him to succeed. I like both Coach Miles and Coach O's personality but can't say that I am a fan of them. I'm a fan of the LSU Tigers and of course want the coach to have a fair shot at leading the team to success. Wanting the HC to fail makes no sense to me. You may have your doubts, fair enough, but we all have to just wait and see what happens and in the mean time, if you are an LSU fan, than it seems you would be pulling for the LSU Tigers.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:47 pm to
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We're talking about a first year coach with a team that played over 30 freshmen. Two true freshmen starting on the O-line.


O played that many freshman by choice...I assume because they are 'his' guys. The team wasn't and shouldn't have been a young. Probably lost us a game tbh.

You telling me we didn't have enough senior talent to beat troy and miss st?
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:48 pm to
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One poster recently said it isn't the staff's fault if the players are too stupid to learn what they've been coached.


Some one really said that? That's awful. You have to coach to the level of your players. Canada's offense worked fine up north, but might have been a little complicated for SEC players
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108668 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:49 pm to
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Canada's offense worked fine up north, but might have been a little complicated for SEC players

I'm not sure if it was your intention, but some people could easily take that as extremely racist.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63615 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:50 pm to
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I'm a fan of the LSU Tigers and of course want the coach to have a fair shot at leading the team to success. Wanting the HC to fail makes no sense to me. You may have your doubts, fair enough, but we all have to just wait and see what happens and in the mean time, if you are an LSU fan, than it seems you would be pulling for the LSU Tigers.


You’re making excuses for the worst head coach in Ole Miss’s history. It’s pathetic.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:53 pm to
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Is there any reason to dislike O other than so many are invested in his failure because of there on biases and nasty comments.


Forget football and abilities for a second. I dislike O as a public figure and hate him as the face of lsu football.

Just too many dumb arse things he's done.

Death staring down a reporter.

throwing HIS new OC under the bus 4 games after you hired him.

Trying to fight said OC

Not knowing the 323rd string RB was starting a game.

He's just embarrassing. Sorry
This post was edited on 4/11/18 at 8:54 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17739 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:56 pm to
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Some one really said that? That's awful. You have to coach to the level of your players.

That was the gist. Had to dig a bit, but here you go...
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It's a shame how many people on here want Orgeron and Ensminger to fail just so they can say "I told you so." If players aren't picking up stuff they're being taught whose fault is that? What makes any of you think Tom Herman could come in here and make All-Americans out of average players? 
The LSU coaching staff has a lot of experience. They know how to coach. Some of you ought to be banned about how you disparage the staff. It's never the players fault if they can't learn. It's always the coaches fault because they can't coach or motivate. 

LINK

I had forgotten he called the players average.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:57 pm to
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O played that many freshman by choice...I assume because they are 'his' guys.


you assume wrong. You know what they say about assume. No, what he did was play the best players. You think Delpit or Greedy shouldn't have been starting. You really think Ingram and Charles were starting in the Oline over better players on the bench? Many other freshman played due to depth issues on the dline, LB, and Oline. Brennan played to get experience . Tory Carter played because he blocked like a beast and could catch the ball occasionally. Lot of freshman played but not because they were "O's players". All the players are coach O's players.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:58 pm to
“Talent”

The talent excuse collapses when you understand we got embarrassed by two teams that we had much more talent than. Those kind of games are lost due to poor coaching.....much like the bowl game. imo
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 8:59 pm to
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i can almost guarantee the next coach will have a better resume.
literally any semi successful coordinator has a better resume than O.



That wouldn't be hard to find compared to O. But once they get here, is success guaranteed??? no.

Rich Rod at Michigan is a classic example.

And I don't trust the current admin to effectively wipe their own azzes much less find a decent football coach.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108668 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:01 pm to
That's awesome. Call the players stupid and then turn around and say posters should be banned for "disparaging" a very well paid public figure. Only on tRant.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16173 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:05 pm to
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I had forgotten he called the players average.


some of our players are average SEC players and can't be all americans no matter who is the coach. I agree with that. I don't see where he said all the players are average.

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It's a shame how many people on here want Orgeron and Ensminger to fail just so they can say "I told you so."

I can't argue with that

quote:

If players aren't picking up stuff they're being taught whose fault is that?

yes you have to coach in a way the players will understand.

[quote]The LSU coaching staff has a lot of experience. They know how to coach. Some of you ought to be banned about how you disparage the staff. It's never the players fault if they can't learn. It's always the coaches fault because they can't coach or motivate. [/quote

I agree with that also. Some just go way overboard with their criticism of the staff in an insane way.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:05 pm to
I'm not sure if it was your intention, but some people could easily take that as extremely racist.


Yea if you're some kind of paranoid liberal phaggot.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108668 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:08 pm to
I didnt take it that way, but some people like to look for things that aren't there and I thought he may want to rephrase as to not have to deal with people twisting things later.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29860 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:09 pm to
quote:

you assume wrong. You know what they say about assume. No, what he did was play the best players. You think Delpit or Greedy shouldn't have been starting. You really think Ingram and Charles were starting in the Oline over better players on the bench? Many other freshman played due to depth issues on the dline, LB, and Oline. Brennan played to get experience . Tory Carter played because he blocked like a beast and could catch the ball occasionally. Lot of freshman played but not because they were "O's players". All the players are coach O's players.


Sure you can pick the few that were better. Miles always had a few standout freshmen each year. And we usually played 12-15true frosh.

But their whole argument is that we played THIRTY freshman.

Sorry man that's not due to lacking seniority. You can't go out of your way to play guys and the say you lost because of them and then not get blame.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 4/11/18 at 9:10 pm to
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some people like to look for things that aren't there


Thats what is wrong with the world today.
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