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re: Rabalais: Despite baggage, ex-LSU coach Les Miles deserves college Hall of Fame shot

Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:03 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:03 pm to
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I’m waiting on your list… I’m assuming you’ll have guys like Urban and Spurrier on it…


The only other guy that would have been both realistic AND interesting is Bobby Petrino
Posted by evil cockroach
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:11 pm to
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How many championships would Les have won if Saban stayed in Miami? 2007, 2011 for sure. 2012? 2015?


I mean, football is a game of inches.

OSU’s ball moves 6 inches to the right , we win 2011

If we convert 4th and 5 , we win 2012.

We are 5.5 yards from back to back natty’s
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:23 pm to
With the exception of Wisconsin 2016, list me the games lsu lost while heavy favored
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:25 pm to
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The only other guy that would have been both realistic AND interesting is Bobby Petrino

The only problem is that none of the those 3 guys were realistic possibilities, as they were all hired before Saban announced he was leaving…
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:26 pm to
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With the exception of Wisconsin 2016, list me the games lsu lost while heavy favored

I mean you said he never lost a game in which he was favored to win. Now you are making exceptions and changing it to “heavily favored”?
Posted by BayouFann
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:34 pm to
Vacating/forfeiting wins is punishment. Keeping the losses is part of making that punishment. Vacating wins and losses is erasing the year completely. If that was the case then teams would gamble on illegal shyt all the time knowing that if they get caught then the school would benefit still by not harming the school win/loss record and making millions in the process. There’s no deterrent in that model.
Posted by Adam Banks
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:36 pm to
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The only problem is that none of the those 3 guys were realistic possibilities, as they were all hired before Saban announced he was leaving…




I was agreeing with you.

My comment was intended as the only other candidate besides MILES (not the other two) that was realistic and interesting was petrino


And he absolutely was available and was strongly rumored at one point
Posted by 904
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:53 pm to
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Never lost to teams while favored to win

This is a decent post if you remove every sentence that contains the word “never”


Yeah, can easily be refuted with results like losing in a 17-0 shutout to an Arkansas team who had a 17 game winless SEC streak going at that time.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 12:57 pm to
Broadcast HOF his mentorship program was unrivaled
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 1:00 pm to
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I think most reasonable LSU fans agree he belongs in the hall of fame.



Yep. I have no hate for Les. He deserves to be in.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 1:15 pm to
Well they lowered the winning percentage for the Pirate, so now Les clearly gets in.
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
3810 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 1:19 pm to
Hot take but Les Miles was a better coach than Brain Kelly. Under the bumbling goofy exterior persona he gave off to the public...he wasn't as dumb as his perception gave off.

It's not a coincidence looking at his record, his elite talent recruitment, and his teams having a very physical hard-nosed mentality despite the offensive struggles.

Sure, his mindset was archaic it worked all until his last few years here when the game finally passed him by. Happens to a lot of great coaches over time. With the exception of Wisconsin and the miracle win by Clemson's Qb throwing out of his mind the bowl game under pressure, Les imposed his will OOC.

He had a very impressive streak. You can complain all you want about how he mishandled offense but he always had physical teams with great defense. He had a lot more positives than this board gives him credit to. He was second only to Saban in recruiting and recruiting in that era was 50% of the battle to win NCs.

Much as this board takes a dump on him I can list you just as many negatives for BK. Not that BK is a bad coach. My point is no coach is perfect not even Saban was. You don't run through the SEC in an era of their dominance with pure luck for as long as he did. Thinking that is purely asinine. How many coaches did he outlast in the SEC when there was really no competition to the better conference?

The cupboard was full of elite talent because he brought it here. That was him doing it. Offensive development? Sure, you can complain about that. He sure did have some elite running games though and most of the time teams couldn't stop it knowing it was coming. Are we going to complain how terrible BK is on special teams and defensive management alongside personnel decisions? More to the point -- not knocking BK but all coaches aren't flawless.
This post was edited on 7/27/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted by Riverside
Member since Jul 2022
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 1:22 pm to
LSU should nominate Les in 2027 in celebration of the 20 year anniversary of the great 2007 team.
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
3810 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 1:30 pm to
LSU likely has 2 or 3 NCs under Miles if Saban didn't exist in that conference on our side of the bracket. That's easy facts to prove when you look at how many roads go through Bama LSU had to deal with under Saban's era and LSU was that close.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34713 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 1:42 pm to
I thought Les miles wasted more talent than possible at lsu but if we don't make the playoffs this year then Kelly is going to take that title

If there was a 12 team playoff when Les was coaching he'd honestly would have made it damn near every year, almost for sure one more title and likely multiple more titles. Would have been really hard to beat 06 and 12 LSU in playoffs
Posted by BigTimer23
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Ehhh, Les mailing it in vs Bama in that shite show national championship game and doing the same thing vs Wisconsin in a season opener would be very tough for me to overlook.

This has zero bearing on whether or not his resume is hall of fame worthy. It is.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 2:50 pm to
Even in that game, lsu still played tough
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
13776 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 3:12 pm to
His record at LSU even with the forfeited wins was 77-34. That's 69.37%. That's better than Cholly Mac at 69.2% who is in the College Football Hall of Fame.

He won a national championship and appeared in a second one.

LSU should nominate him.
Posted by 904
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Posted on 7/27/25 at 3:14 pm to
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Even in that game, lsu still played tough


I hope this is sarcasm because there's nothing you can say to spin that game, and some others, in a positive light. LSU, with all of our homegrown athletes, should never get shutout and be limited to 120 yards by an Arkansas team who hadn't won an SEC game in over two years.

If it was Kelly instead of Miles as the HC during this Arkansas 2014 game, Ole Miss 2009, Tennessee 2010, etc, he would have been endlessly clowned for his incompetence by the national media and LSU fans alike, and rightfully so.
Posted by friendlyobservation
Member since Mar 2024
3810 posts
Posted on 7/27/25 at 3:14 pm to
Man sustained one of the best records for 10+ years at LSU in he country in the most competitive conference against the best coach in NCAA history. He deserves respect for what he accomplished. Most accomplished coach in LSU history. His off the field business I don't care about. That's his business.


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