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re: QB Draw...WTF was that all about?
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:34 am to burreauxxx
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:34 am to burreauxxx
No
The QB has to be a viable option. It’s a numbers game
And we had to let them know he was a viable option early and often. Brennan was NEVER an option. By design or otherwise.
By all accounts, Max was the best runner, and TJ stronger arm, but not mobile
We deliberately called those plays
If JR had shown the willingness to run the first half of his last year, we would have played for a NC
The QB has to be a viable option. It’s a numbers game
And we had to let them know he was a viable option early and often. Brennan was NEVER an option. By design or otherwise.
By all accounts, Max was the best runner, and TJ stronger arm, but not mobile
We deliberately called those plays
If JR had shown the willingness to run the first half of his last year, we would have played for a NC
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:36 am to SidewalkTiger
Keep reading and watching how this plays out
You will eventually catch up, or not
Everyone enjoys the game in their own way
You will eventually catch up, or not
Everyone enjoys the game in their own way
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:40 am to Locoguan0
quote:
One game and TJ was already a little gimpy before he was pulled. He is just big. He isn't fast nor is he a natural runner
No, but he is not at all a statue and he moves well for his size (way better than I expected). We don't need him to be a runner. We just need him to be able to escape the pocket and throw on the run if necessary and that looks positive. He is also good with moving the pile and getting a yard on QB sneaks due to his size.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:42 am to SidewalkTiger
Finley wasn’t pressured
It resulted in 17 completions on 21 attempts
Muschamp saw enough to know he didn’t want to send an extra man that wouldn’t get home in time for that quick release, and if he did get home, not be able to bring him down
Can’t you guys see that he rushed 6 times in the 1st Q and scored a TD, but never ran again?
You really think that was just coincidence? LOL
It resulted in 17 completions on 21 attempts
Muschamp saw enough to know he didn’t want to send an extra man that wouldn’t get home in time for that quick release, and if he did get home, not be able to bring him down
Can’t you guys see that he rushed 6 times in the 1st Q and scored a TD, but never ran again?
You really think that was just coincidence? LOL
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:46 am to ibleedprplngld
It made sense to run Finley a few times though because it made SC think about respecting the QB keeping on runs to the RB where he could have kept it (which is mostly what our running game is). I did not like us running him at all after the game was clearly in control though.
And he did have 8 carries for 24 yards and a TD with a long run of 9, so those are good for QB numbers.
And he did have 8 carries for 24 yards and a TD with a long run of 9, so those are good for QB numbers.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:52 am to wahoocs
quote:
Can’t you guys see that he rushed 6 times in the 1st Q and scored a TD, but never ran again?
He had two carries in the 4th quarter...
Posted on 10/25/20 at 11:56 am to burreauxxx
Not 100% effective as a weapon but did stop Usc from sending waves of blitzes
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:13 pm to burreauxxx
it looked bad but they had to have been doing 2 things with those running plays
1. keeping the defense honest
2. getting Finley settled in. running plays are great for that for many qbs.
1. keeping the defense honest
2. getting Finley settled in. running plays are great for that for many qbs.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:18 pm to wahoocs
quote:
He also doesn’t possess the physical tools to shed a rusher and still have the arm strength to make them pay by hitting the open man that wasn’t covered by that rusher
What? Every QB on our team has excellent arm strength. Myles Brennan has a canon.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:19 pm to burreauxxx
He was successful enough for the defense had to honor it. They can stack plays off of those principles
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:39 pm to TankBoys32
I agree and why don’t the staff apply that same logic to RB?
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:49 pm to wahoocs
quote:exactly.
You will see as much of that as necessary to make them defend it
It’s what allows the passing lanes to remain open
Remember when Flippy Franks ran the read option (and option) all over us a couple years ago. Same thing.
If they're not defending against it, it doesn't matter if it is his forte or not. He's still a non-kicker D1 athlete that can make some hay out of that until they do something to stop it.
Most significantly, not all of those were draws. Some were read options where he chose to keep it. Boom wanted to get to the young freshman and they were too agressive at times and TJ made the correct read on the DE.
So the read option wasn't introduced because TJ is the second coming of Randall Cunningham. It was put in the game plan because they knew Boom would want to get to him by being aggressive against a OT in only his second start (Wire) on the edge. It wasn't a coincidence most of those runs were to the O-left, where Wire was and opposite his normal rollout side for a right hander.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:51 pm to burreauxxx
yeah, I thought they called that too much myself, no, he's not Lamar Jackson. He can run, but he's big and not fleet afoot, now I can understand calling it for Max Johnson. Also, those saying it was necessary to call it to open the passing lanes, that's just hogwash, the passing lanes were open all night that's why he was riddling SC's secondary all night.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:52 pm to nitwit
“TJ's first step is VERY slow, but his second step is very long.
Reminded me of the Arky QB a few years ago, who had a stride of about 6-8 yds.“
Matt Jones was a long strider, but he was a legit 4.4
guy.
Reminded me of the Arky QB a few years ago, who had a stride of about 6-8 yds.“
Matt Jones was a long strider, but he was a legit 4.4
guy.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 10/25/20 at 12:59 pm to TrapperJohn
quote:Matt Jones was pretty damn fast. Fast enough where he became an NFL TE for a little while. And he came into R-Kansas a TE to start with.
Matt Jones was a long strider, but he was a legit 4.4
guy.
I think he's think of Ryan "pill head" Mallett.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 6:48 pm to Penrod
Dude, I have no response to someone who thinks TJ Finley and Myles Brennan have the same velo and release on their passes?
Do you really stay on these message boards and give opinions you think matter with that amount of perception to reality?
GTFO of here. Seriously
Do you really stay on these message boards and give opinions you think matter with that amount of perception to reality?
GTFO of here. Seriously
Posted on 10/25/20 at 6:56 pm to SidewalkTiger
TJ is twice as big as Miles, can bull his way forward like Tebow did. He won’t be as easy to take down.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 7:11 pm to burreauxxx
Seemed like E was just giving the defense another thing to look out for, probably trying to setup a pass play (similar to the play in the 4th quarter vs tGumps where Joe faked the run and pulled up to Chase).
TJ is slow but also 6’6” 245lbs. He can get a few yards just falling down. I didn’t hate the call.
TJ is slow but also 6’6” 245lbs. He can get a few yards just falling down. I didn’t hate the call.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 7:14 pm to WilliamTaylor21
There was a lot more to it than that
But for a career message board guy like you not to realize it, I am officially retired in my capacity to explain
Carry on.
But for a career message board guy like you not to realize it, I am officially retired in my capacity to explain
Carry on.
Posted on 10/25/20 at 7:15 pm to Locoguan0
quote:
One game and TJ was already a little gimpy before he was pulled. He is just big. He isn't fast nor is he a natural runner.
This. I’m so tired of people acting like he’s a good runner in any way shape or form. They just see a black QB and assume.
“The defenses respect his ability to run” no... not at all
MB and TJ tie in a foot race.
This post was edited on 10/25/20 at 7:16 pm
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