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re: QB Draw RPO in the 4th quarter
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:07 pm to Tigerstark
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:07 pm to Tigerstark
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Magee looks to be run blocking, and Cush double teams and then moves to the LB like its a run.
If Magee was run blocking he would be down low and driving his man back. Instead, he stands up and is, in fact, pass blocking his man.
Both tackles step back because that's how they pass block.
Therefore, the play is not an RPO play and you are wrong.
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Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:09 pm to slackster
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The football gods returned the favor on Sunday with Matt Ryan.
I'll take that trade off every single day and twice on Sundays. I'm a huge Saints fan but the significance of these two games aren't even in the same stratosphere.
The Saints didn't deserve to win that game with the piss poor effort they put on the field yesterday.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:10 pm to slackster
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can see that. If it wasn't a designed play, it should be. It is essentially a jump pass on steroids.
I’ve seen the play before, but you usually see a more deliberate run fake, the QB pulls back and sets his feet, and doesn’t throw moving forward on the run like joe did. Which is why I question if it was designed like that.
If it was, that’s def something I haven’t seen before. Kudos to them
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:13 pm to Neauxla_Tiger
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It was designed. Watch Joe. Gets the shotgun snap, sets his feet for a second to let the pass rush get up field, then runs forward.
I haven’t watched it a 2nd time so you may be right. My first inclination was it was a busted play but that could just be because of the Run/pass option aspect. His mind isn’t made up to throw it until he is moving forward.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:14 pm to Lester Earl
It's obviously by design since there was no pressure on Joe when he initially dropped back as if to pass and then started forward.
And Joe Burrow's movement forward did cause number 36 who was spying Joe to rush forward in response to Joe. Not to mention, that it is also number 36 who also made the tackle after Chase had to slow down to make his cut back.
And Joe Burrow's movement forward did cause number 36 who was spying Joe to rush forward in response to Joe. Not to mention, that it is also number 36 who also made the tackle after Chase had to slow down to make his cut back.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:14 pm to lsufan_26
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I'll take that trade off every single day and twice on Sundays. I'm a huge Saints fan but the significance of these two games aren't even in the same stratosphere.
Absolutely.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:18 pm to Tigerstark
After twelve long, fabled years, we finally saw what the hell was in that goddamned secret playbook!
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:22 pm to Lester Earl
Dadgummit, Lester. I’m not used to agreeing with you.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:24 pm to VermilionTiger
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we haven’t seen in since the Wizard was at his peak in 07
jimbo used to run all those linked plays also. we need to throw some good ole post routes like he used to kill teams with.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:26 pm to Tigerstark
I’ve waited for that play all season. I knew it would come this game. I thought sure as hell Saban would too. Apparently not. Great success!!
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:27 pm to Lester Earl
I'm going off Joe's body language. Also his eyes look like they're watching that safety/LB waiting for him to commit to pass or run. Could be wrong of course, but it was kind of a weird looking breakdown if it all happened by accident.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:29 pm to jimbeam
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I thought sure as hell Saban would too. Apparently not.
The beautiful thing about it if it was an RPO is it doesn't matter if they know it's coming. Joe will let them pick their poison then burn them with the run/pass, whichever is open. RPOs and read-options, when you have the personnel and execution, are incredibly difficult to stop whether you diagnose it or not
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:33 pm to Neauxla_Tiger
This looks like it was a called QB draw, but with the option to pass it to CHase. He was the only one running a route. The 3x WR near side were blocking. To me this was a QB draw and either him and Chase had a signal to run route or this is part of the playbook where Joe has the option to hit the only WR running a route.
Joe was going to be stopped on a draw as the LB's collapsed down to him, then that opened the lane for the pass. This was either a play for 1 or 9 only.
Joe was going to be stopped on a draw as the LB's collapsed down to him, then that opened the lane for the pass. This was either a play for 1 or 9 only.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:47 pm to Neauxla_Tiger
Yea but if you watch the WRs to the right and CEH, they are all setting up for a swing pass.
Of course it could just be the genius of the play. Everyone keeps calling it a fake draw, but a fake swing pass went on too, if it was all by design
Of course Joe could have checked out or communicated with Chase somehow pre-snap to run what they did.
Of course it could just be the genius of the play. Everyone keeps calling it a fake draw, but a fake swing pass went on too, if it was all by design
Of course Joe could have checked out or communicated with Chase somehow pre-snap to run what they did.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 12:54 pm to Lester Earl
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Most people prob won’t agree but I think it was a busted play that joe improvised. He just seemed kind of panicky after the snap. I don’t think it was a designed play, that’s just me
Disagree - none of the other wideouts even run a pattern. It was to Chase all the way.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:01 pm to The LGBM
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Disagree - none of the other wideouts even run a pattern. It was to Chase all the way.
They all set up to block for a swing pass.
Not for a QB draw
Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:05 pm to Lester Earl
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They all set up to block for a swing pass.
Yeah, but they don't actually block anyone, and all look over to the left after a second. Its clearly a decoy look.
The Main play was a fake QB draw with Chase as the intended target. Everything else is meant to draw other players away so that its Chase 1 on 1 moving into space. You would favor Chase 95 times out a 100 on that.
Joe had the option of pulling it down if the pass wasn't open. Which is why Cush even bothers to go for the LB.
This post was edited on 11/11/19 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:10 pm to Tigerstark
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and all look over to the left after a second. Its clearly a decoy look.
Jefferson in the slot is the only one that stops blocking, because he is hooking the LB & the pass is in his sight line
Posted on 11/11/19 at 1:56 pm to KingDaddyRabbit
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Uhm...it's a cool play but it's not technically an RPO. Look at the offensive line, they are all pass blocking.
Hey coach how do you block a RPO when the P is pass? If the line run blocks we end up with an ineligible man downfield.
Posted on 11/11/19 at 3:08 pm to KingDaddyRabbit
You’re wrong Rabbit. It was an RPO. you teach a different type of run block on RPO’s. It’s a slow play run block that’s about body positioning and walking out rather than driving them back.
It’s ok to be wrong, and you are.
It’s ok to be wrong, and you are.
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