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Proof that the "horrible call" at 1st base was correct...

Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:11 am
Posted by magiLSU
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:11 am
Not sure if this says more about my fanaticism as an LSU fan or my compulsion to be correct, but I noticed this quickly during the ESPN replays, and I don't see that anyone else has...enjoy.

Thanks to the angle of the sun being almost directly down the 1B line, you can see a clear gap in the shadow between the USCe first baseman's shoe and 1B until the last pic in sequence. Case closed--ump made a great call:



This post was edited on 5/8/17 at 1:21 am
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:15 am to
quote:

Thanks to the angle of the sun being almost directly down the 1B line, you can see a clear gap in the shadow between the USCe first baseman's shoe and 1B until the last pic in sequence.



Good work! I didn't even notice that.


Was this the call where the USCe coach came out and flipped out? I honestly thought he was going to get thrown out.

Posted by magiLSU
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
2356 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:18 am to
Yep, he was right to argue, but replay showed the ump made a terrific call.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:26 am to
Score one for the sun
Posted by la_birdman
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31001 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:27 am to
Thanks. I couldn't remember if it was that play or another one.


Excellent work!



Posted by magiLSU
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/8/17 at 1:42 am to
Thanks...I do what I can do when I can do it.

Posted by im4LSU
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2004
31926 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 2:02 am to
Post it on the SEC Rant
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
12977 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 4:48 am to
But, but, but, that can't possibly be right. This team isn't good enough to win without the umps helping us. This makes no sense at all.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22396 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:50 am to
quote:

I honestly thought he was going to get thrown out.


The main reason I thought maybe the ump screwed up. He was giving the coach a lot of leash.
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
13128 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 5:55 am to
A gump on tSECR argued that the lack of shadow was from his foot being on the bag but off the ground. No use posting over there
Posted by magiLSU
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
2356 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:00 am to
quote:

A gump on tSECR argued that the lack of shadow was from his foot being on the bag but off the ground. No use posting over there


Can't fix stupid.
Posted by Bristol Dawg
God's Country
Member since Jul 2016
2934 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:06 am to
Wow, nice job there. You could see the foot movement but not whether he was touching. That sun really shows the gap. Surprised we didn't have a camera angle down the line.
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1777 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:20 am to
You can also see Watson's reaction in the video. He was signaling he was safe, knowing the ball beat him. My guess, he could see the foot off the bag.
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36514 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:49 am to
Nice thanks for the great Rant Investigation.

When I saw the play I thought immediately that he was off the bag by an inch and framed it at the end, this totally proves my theory
Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
72411 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 6:58 am to
Great job! I didn't notice that at all live or on immediate replay since there wasn't a good camera angle that showed his foot, I thought we got away with one at the time. Turns out the ump nailed it.
Posted by the LSUSaint
Member since Nov 2009
15444 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:28 am to
Except for the fact in the "last" one, chronologically it's the first one....And you can't see if he has the ball yet. No one doubts he touched the bag at some point, we are doubtful he stayed in contact when the throw pulled him off.

Changed those pics around and you have proof positive he wasn't on the bag.

Question being, when did he have the ball in possession
Posted by Fightin Okra
Member since Nov 2016
5634 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:28 am to
You can also look at the right side of first base. It is flat because foot not pressing on it, but then it rises up when he pushes against it. By that time the runner had already stepped on the bag
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
67589 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:41 am to
i really don't understand the people that think it was a terrible call. I know umps make mistakes but no way do i believe an ump in that position would blow that call. He had to have seen his foot off the bag to call it. The announcers kept saying it was a bad call and his foot didn't move when actually his heel lifted up slightly...and they continued saying it was a bad call with no evidence from replay. Had that been reviewable the call would have stood.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124259 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:47 am to
Damn that's awesome. Hell of a call
Posted by The Pretender
Member since Dec 2014
158 posts
Posted on 5/8/17 at 7:49 am to
quote:

i really don't understand the people that think it was a terrible call. I know umps make mistakes but no way do i believe an ump in that position would blow that call. He had to have seen his foot off the bag to call it. The announcers kept saying it was a bad call and his foot didn't move when actually his heel lifted up slightly...and they continued saying it was a bad call with no evidence from replay. Had that been reviewable the call would have stood.



It was a bad call,but who knows whether it would have been over-turned.

This just proves fans see what they want to see.
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