re: Proof that the "horrible call" at 1st base was correct...

Wouldn't his cleats have the same effect showing a gap?

At first, I thought USCe was robbed.

Then I realized the man making the call was ground level positioned perfectly to see any air gap.

He had better position than any camera.

Imagine that logic - ever wonder why umpires stand in certain positions to make calls, so they have the best angle...but I guess the announcers angle was better in the press box...

Didn't LSU WIN the game???


Why does this matter???

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This makes zero sense.

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I mean he wasnt off the bag hardly at all. Im glad the call went our way, but it was still a bad call. just like how on 90% of double plays the fielder doesnt touch 2nd base. You give the fielder the benefit of the doubt on a play where he barely comes off the bag.

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You give the fielder the benefit of the doubt on a play where he barely comes off the bag.

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A. The neighborhood / vicinity rule doesn't actually exist, and it in no way relates to plays at first anyway.

2. I totally believe that 90% figure you made up.

III. Never in the history of baseball has an umpire said, "Ah, screw it, the first baseman realllly wanted and tried to touch the bag---I'll reward him with a 'participation out'."

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I could see the foot off the bag clearly

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No, you really couldn't. You may have clearly wanted it to be off, so you convinced yourself it was. And it very well may have been. But you could not see it "clearly." That's absurd.


And you fellas may have to Microsoft paint some circles around the part of the shadows you think are conclusive. I just don't see it. Again, it may have been, but I have yet to see this definitive proof y'all seem to think absolutely exonerates the ump.

That said, he was in a great position to make the call, and he did confidently. So, I'll go with that. But let's try to be intellectually honest here, folks.

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The only intellectually honest position I see is that the Ump was the only person who got a good enough view to know for sure.

His lack of hesitation is telling.

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I agree

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Just the opposite. He doesn't need to prop his foot against the bag if he's on his knee. I'd say going to a knee would naturally take your foot further off the base.

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That is what I was saying his knee is about 2-3 inches off the ground which means that he has to have it pressed on something---like the base

I can put my foot against my wall and I can stretch out and hold my knee a few inches above the ground, but I cannot do that in the middle of the room.