re: Proof that Chris Jackson was the greatest college player (other than Pete)

Great point.... but Dale always seemed to do better at tourney time with a lesser talented team... well except 1981.

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Shaq had a higher True Shooting Percentage, which includes free throws.

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It was negligibly better and I would hope so. Shaq was dunking while CJ was shooting from 25'-30'.

Full court, one on one in college, CJ would have killed Shaq. CJ was quicker, handled the ball better, and shot better. Shaq would not have been able to dribble up the court being guarded by CJ.

However, with all that being said, as a NBA GM, I would have selected Shaq in the draft before CJ.

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It was negligibly better and I would hope so. Shaq was dunking while CJ was shooting from 25'-30'.

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You brought up FT%; I was pointing out TS% to show that even with FT% included Shaq was a more efficient shooter. And yes, mostly because of his proficiency at getting easy looks. Getting lots of dunks was a major part of Shaq's game; it's absurd that you try to spin getting lots of dunks into a negative.

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Full court, one on one in college, CJ would have killed Shaq. CJ was quicker, handled the ball better, and shot better. Shaq would not have been able to dribble up the court being guarded by CJ.

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This is the weirdest non-sequitur I've ever seen. Of course a guard would beat a center in full-court one-on-one; if that is what anyone in the world ever cared about when discussing basketball players that would be relevant. If that is what this thread has been about this whole time I would have been in agreement from the start. We both know that's not what has been being discussed here, though.

What Ben Simmons could have been if he had given any effort at all.

Ever heard of Oscar Robertson or Kareem? They led their teams to Wins.

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I was there! In the summit

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me too

Why do you hate CJ so much????

Greatest lineup in lsu history

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Proof that Chris Jackson was the greatest college player (other than Pete)

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Why can't we have these guys again rather than tPOS crybabies who make tripping a part of their game?

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I know I sound crazy, but I I were putting together an LSU All-time Starting 5, I would have Ethan Martin as my Point Guard

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Ethan Martin was unreal on both sides. AT point, he knew how to get the ball into the right hands, or he would do it himself. On defense, chances were if he was around you and you put the ball down to dribble, he had it in a couple seconds and was going the other way for the score.

Yeah,I was at LSU when CJ was there. Saw Jose Vargas miss slam dunks, Lyle Mouton, Nikita Wilson, Noboisha Bukomirivich, Zoran Jovanovich, Stanley Roberts, Shaquille, Vernel Singleton, Geert Hammink, Russell Grant, and a whole bunch of others that we loved. Chris was damned good. We called him "Mr. Automatic" when he was at the free throw line. I loved watching him play. But we had problems in the days of CJ, Shaq', and Stanley. We had the best players in the nation, but they refused to play well as a team.

The best team LSU put on the court was in 1981 with Durand "Rudy" Macklin, Howard Carter,Greg Cook, Ethan Martin,Leonard Mitchell, Willie Sims, Johnny Jones, John Tudor, Tyrone Black, Mark Alcorn, Joe Costello, Matt England, Brian Kistler, J. Brian Bergeron, and Andy Campbell (a 7'-4" Australian).

I would trade all the games I watched as a student with CJ playing just to watch one game against Kentucky with the 1981 team on the floor. (Except, maybe, that Loyola-Marymount game. That one was freaking incredible!)