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re: Problems with LSU Board of Supervisors, changes needed
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:11 am to LSU GrandDad
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:11 am to LSU GrandDad
Over the last five years or so, how much spending did LSU have to cut out? Must be hundreds of millions, right?
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Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:11 am to TBoy
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What actual problems is the OP referring to?
I think the idiot has greatly misdiagnosed the problems. I think he just want Alleva and Orgeron gone and blames the BOS for them (and King). LSU athletic department has plenty of money; the rest of the college does not.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:13 am to LSU GrandDad
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you claim that changing the BOS is the solution? you are ignorant of the way the state works. instead of bashing those at the university that have to survive budget chops you should be electing legislators that will change the way the state is funded. and you claim that electing the BOS is an improvement? hah! the same voters that allow the legislature to run a poor ship would do better by electing the BOS?
I'm thinking his problem has more to do with the pending raises that Joe Alleva is presenting for board approval and not so much with the funding from the state.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:54 am to LSU GrandDad
Grand Dad has posted something with which I generally agree.
This catches me entirely off guard, and leaves me a bit stunned.
I am now going to quiet place for a period of serious self examination and reflection.
Please respect my privacy during this difficult time...
This catches me entirely off guard, and leaves me a bit stunned.
I am now going to quiet place for a period of serious self examination and reflection.
Please respect my privacy during this difficult time...
Posted on 6/27/18 at 9:57 am to Snookmaster
Ummm..pretty sure most of them were appointed by Piyush Jindal.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:03 am to Snookmaster
You want the people that elected JBE to elect the LSU BOS’s?
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:07 am to Snookmaster
It's part of a larger in Louisiana the entire state constitution needs to be blown up and re done.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:26 am to nitwit
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Grand Dad has posted something with which I generally agree. This catches me entirely off guard, and leaves me a bit stunned. I am now going to quiet place for a period of serious self examination and reflection. Please respect my privacy during this difficult time...
that's not fair. you posted something once I agreed with. and yes, it stunned me also.
but I like a fair man even when we disagree. so I think it's time to apologize for some of the names I've called you in the past. you have to admit though that your user name leaves you open.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:30 am to ScubaTiger
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Are you sure you want a load of people who didn't finish high school electing the state's flagship university BOS?
If you dont need a high school diploma to vote for the leader of our country why would you need one to vote for the leaders of our universities?
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:37 am to Snookmaster
Well, it's the law and the law is never wrong. We must all obey any law no matter what it says.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:39 am to Snookmaster
Just leave the selection process as it with the caveat they have to be an alum of some institution in the LSU system.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:42 am to Snookmaster
Elections have consequences
Posted on 6/27/18 at 10:49 am to Snookmaster
In all honesty, I flew off the handle last night after seeing:
THIS is what got my rant going about BOS. But it has been building for a while. My comments were irrational and not very well thought out. I appreciate the feedback from others (except for one, which I will address later in a separate post). After re-evaluating, a lot of you are right and I'm off base here.
Blind trust in LA voters for an election could be worse than governmental appointees. Agreed. But it would be nice if there was some feasible way to change the selection process to something with more "checks and balances" to assure that the right people are put in those positions. Unfortunately, I see no feasible alternative that would serve such a function.
I do still feel however that there should be a prerequisite that BOS members be an alum or have some type of connection/allegiance to demonstrate a vested interest in the well being of LSU.
By no means was I singling out or trying to discredit any particular BOS member. If I offended anyone directly connected to the BOS, my sincere apologies. However, I implore you - PLEASE evaluate the job performance of one Joe Alleva. Enough is enough.
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Alleva proposes 3-year extension for WBB's Nikki Fargas, pending LSU Board approval
THIS is what got my rant going about BOS. But it has been building for a while. My comments were irrational and not very well thought out. I appreciate the feedback from others (except for one, which I will address later in a separate post). After re-evaluating, a lot of you are right and I'm off base here.
Blind trust in LA voters for an election could be worse than governmental appointees. Agreed. But it would be nice if there was some feasible way to change the selection process to something with more "checks and balances" to assure that the right people are put in those positions. Unfortunately, I see no feasible alternative that would serve such a function.
I do still feel however that there should be a prerequisite that BOS members be an alum or have some type of connection/allegiance to demonstrate a vested interest in the well being of LSU.
By no means was I singling out or trying to discredit any particular BOS member. If I offended anyone directly connected to the BOS, my sincere apologies. However, I implore you - PLEASE evaluate the job performance of one Joe Alleva. Enough is enough.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 11:01 am
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:01 am to LSU GrandDad
GrandDad, I was a lurker here for years before I obtained an account. Accordingly, I thought I had to be nitwit to post here.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:10 am to TheCaterpillar
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Just leave the selection process as it with the caveat they have to be an alum of some institution in the LSU system.
What about the AD and President of the University?
Seems like you would seek out the most qualified regardless of their alma mater. Do you think Scott Woodward gives less effort at A&M because he didn't go to school there?
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:35 am to Snookmaster
I don't trust the electorate of this state to vote in board members. People barely show up to elect state senators and representatives and I'm sure a good portion of those voting don't even know who they're voting for just as long as they have a D or an R next to their name.
You mentioned a few places where voters choose board members for their respective universities, but that really doesn't make a case for why it's a better way of doing things. It seems like the majority of public universities operate the same as LSU in regard to appointing board members. For example Florida and Ohio State board members are appointed by their governor. In Alabama the governor is a defacto board member while other board members are elected by their legislators.
You mentioned a few places where voters choose board members for their respective universities, but that really doesn't make a case for why it's a better way of doing things. It seems like the majority of public universities operate the same as LSU in regard to appointing board members. For example Florida and Ohio State board members are appointed by their governor. In Alabama the governor is a defacto board member while other board members are elected by their legislators.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 11:58 am to Northshore Saint
The issue with the governor appointed board members is that the governor can do quite a bit of damage to the university if he chooses to do so against LSU by his appointees. But with that said leaving it to voters could be devastating.
There is no uniform solution that is failsafe. Board members should have some familiarity and understanding of the unique issues of LSU, therefore the alumni idea is not a bad idea. LSU needs to do a better job at understanding the pulse of the alumni and fan base and be able to see some of the longterm impacts of bad decision making. Most of the issues the fan base has with the administration is the continued mistakes that are made. LSU is a unique university that sometimes outsiders don't understand. Hope the new members will listen to the outcry for change.
From a facility standpoint Alleva has been adequate, from a contract writing standpoint he is abysmal. Know your demand. Women's basketball, if you want to give her an extension fine. Dont give her a buyout. Same should have gone for coach O. Once they each have success you can evaluate. Don't repetitively cripple the university with multiple bad decisions. And the BOS needs to be able to have the ability to ensure this doesn't happen and just not accept the recommendations from the AD.
There is no uniform solution that is failsafe. Board members should have some familiarity and understanding of the unique issues of LSU, therefore the alumni idea is not a bad idea. LSU needs to do a better job at understanding the pulse of the alumni and fan base and be able to see some of the longterm impacts of bad decision making. Most of the issues the fan base has with the administration is the continued mistakes that are made. LSU is a unique university that sometimes outsiders don't understand. Hope the new members will listen to the outcry for change.
From a facility standpoint Alleva has been adequate, from a contract writing standpoint he is abysmal. Know your demand. Women's basketball, if you want to give her an extension fine. Dont give her a buyout. Same should have gone for coach O. Once they each have success you can evaluate. Don't repetitively cripple the university with multiple bad decisions. And the BOS needs to be able to have the ability to ensure this doesn't happen and just not accept the recommendations from the AD.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:01 pm to TigerNlc
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Seems like you would seek out the most qualified regardless of their alma mater.
Different IMO. Much, MUCH smaller pool of candidates.
There are thousands of possible candidates for BOS. Just have a successful professional career and a masters degree or higher.
This post was edited on 6/27/18 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 6/27/18 at 12:57 pm to ScubaTiger
Are you sure you want a load of people who didn't finish high school electing the state's flagship university BOS?
if THEY DIDN'T GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL IT IS MOST LIKELY THEY WON'T VOTE.Even if they do we probably still get a better board.
if THEY DIDN'T GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL IT IS MOST LIKELY THEY WON'T VOTE.Even if they do we probably still get a better board.
Posted on 6/27/18 at 4:49 pm to Snookmaster
These people are all members of the "I'm on the Board" club. They are ego driven and enjoy the good wine and notoriety. Not going to change!
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