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re: Probably the best melt thread after the O hire
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:45 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:45 pm to LNCHBOX
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You are basically the only person that thinks he handled the Wade situation correctly. I'm not wasting my time trying to convince you of anything.
yeah, just Lester Earl and Wade hisself quote:
On Sunday, though, Wade struck a different tone, saying in a statement, “I completely understand that without my denying or explaining the media reports accusing me of wrongdoing LSU was left with no choice but to suspend me until I was willing and able to meet with them. Any other course of action would have put the program and the University at risk.”
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Apparently “irresponsible” means, not perfectly adhering to what we think should be conventional wisdom.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 2:53 pm to ShermanTxTiger
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If you think it was a brilliant hire in Nov 2016 looking back, you are right
I know I am and there is plenty of proof on the coaching changes and this board to prove it. You were wrong and are making excuses to try and dismiss that fact.
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At the time it was pretty damned irresponsible the way Alleva handled it.
How did he handle it that makes you keep saying that? Without the Syracuse, Tennessee and over a decade ago crap. What bothered you about it?
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The last time we promoted an assistant defensive coach to HC was in 1987 with Mike Archer
NOPE, it was in 2016 with the guy who was named the BEST COACH in college football two days ago. You don't follow sports?
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We passed on Steve Spurrier, Sam Rutigliano and Mike Shanahan for the popular "he is our guy coach".
And what the hell does that have to do with 2016? Did you want Steve Spurrier? What a joke.
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In 1999 we passed on taking the interim tag off of Hal Hunter who was 1-0 and led LSU to destroy Arkansas the last game of the year, Governor Mike Foster said we should have offered him the job with a one year contract. We hired Saban instead. I guess we should have done that too. The man had a 100% winning record as HC.
Dude, you were wrong and you already admitted it. Just move along. These straws you are grasping at are very stupid.
You can make any ridiculous claim you want. The bottom line is the guy Joe Alleva hired in 2016 was named Coach of Year this week. The QB he brought in won the Heisman, one of the WR's he brought in won the Billetnikoff. One of the DB's that signed with him in his first class as HC won the Thorpe Award.
He has in team in the playoffs (first time ever for LSU) with a shot at a national championship. His recruiting class in 3rd in the nation and isn't finished yet.
You cannot convince me that it was a bad hire. THEN OR NOW. IT'S A STUPID ARGUMENT.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:21 pm to Tiger Ree
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re: Here's a quick transcript of Matt Moscona absolutely shredding Joe Alleva.Posted on 11/28/16 at 6:58 pm to le Cajun
Matt needs to STFU he thinks he knows it all. I stop listening to him years ago. He acts like his shite don't stink. Typical CHS prick. GEAUX O
My post to matt stupid rant that day.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:24 pm to Tiger Ree
Did CEO make rick daddy’s arse quit TD?
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:28 pm to TIGRLEE
He’s going to come in here and make 13 straight posts, challenge someone to a fight, and post screen shots from photobucket that no one can see
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:32 pm to Tiger Ree
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How did he handle it that makes you keep saying that?
The SI story that Ross Dellenger wrote earlier in the season basically confirmed he handled the search haphazardly, at best.
Other than having a spy follow Herman all over the country, Alleva didn't do much other than make a few phone calls.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:35 pm to Lester Earl
Ole baw thinks bc he sells baton fkin rouge T-shirts’ on corner of Nicholson and skip Bert drive on game days he can beat people up.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:39 pm to Lester Earl
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post screen shots from photobucket that no one can see
I love those. The comedian is like "here is factual proof" and then posts some shite that you can't make out and gives you a headache just glancing at it.
I said the other day I originally thought he was misguided but now I really think he is a comedian.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:49 pm to ShermanTxTiger
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I never said it was a horrible hire now. Did you take reading comprehension in school? I guess where you missed me saying "It worked out perfectly
Ree does not seem to understand that at the time of the hire there were huge concerns. And it's possible to have been critical of the hire but whole heartedly think it's worked out great.
So he and a few other posters will just keep coming back with these dumbass threads while everyone else has moved on to enjoy a great season.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:49 pm to nvasil1
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The SI story that Ross Dellenger wrote earlier in the season basically confirmed he handled the search haphazardly, at best.
Not to kill your narrative but Dellingers story is not that one sided:
“Alleva had another helper: Steve Spurrier. The two have a healthy friendship that dates back to their days at Duke in the 1980s. “I’d call him about candidates and get his opinion,” Alleva says.
Alleva’s spy attended four more games that season, scouting then-West Virginia coach Dana Holgorsen and Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy when the Cowboys hosted the Mountaineers on Oct. 29. Two days before that, the man traveled to Pittsburgh to scout Virginia Tech coach Justin Fuente in the Hokies’ game against the Panthers.
Joe Alleva and others are here to set the record straight about Fisher. In 2016, Alleva had one phone call with Fisher’s agent, Jimmy Sexton, early in the search process. They never spoke again. In the end, he was not a serious candidate, partly because of his price tag: $7.5 million a year over seven years, committee members say. New Orleans businessman Stephen Perry, a board member who served on that search committee, describes a “fateful moment” during the search when decision-makers agreed not to pursue Fisher. “We loved Jimbo and thought he was a great guy, but we felt like the program at Florida State was in a downward spiral.
There was Stanford coach David Shaw, who made it known early that he was not interested. There was Texas Tech’s Kliff Kingsbury, but some were concerned how his defense and Air Raid scheme would fit into the SEC. There were at least two candidates in particular who expressed their interest in the position: North Carolina’s Larry Fedora and Washington State’s Mike Leach. Alleva spoke to Colorado’s Mike MacIntyre, as the two worked together at Duke, but things were never too serious. Among them all, Justin Fuente, in his first season at Virginia Tech, was maybe the most alluring candidate for decision-makers, but his buyout was enormous.
Some feel Dana Holgorsen had the inside track on the job early on in the process, but there were off-the-field concerns with the then-Mountaineers coach. Alleva says he was never serious about Oklahoma State coach Mike Gundy, and Utah’s Kyle Whittingham, “
Posted on 12/14/19 at 3:50 pm to Tiger Ree
It’s well known Matt Moscona was extremely vocal about the O hire. He was very critical - not so much of O himself but of the process or lack thereof used to select the Head Coach. As much as I am a fan of O the person, at the time, Matt was exactly right. LSU made a mockery of themselves - you handed off one of the biggest jobs in CFB to a guy who was not a proven commodity.
That being said, Matt has always given O credit where it was due and self admitted several times to being critical of the hire and has since eaten crow.
That being said, Matt has always given O credit where it was due and self admitted several times to being critical of the hire and has since eaten crow.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:05 pm to FVRLSU09
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He was very critical - not so much of O
someone posted a link to his melt. If you believe what you just posted you should listen to it again. He said it wasn't about Eaux but then went on a nine minute tirade trashing Eaux.
If it was like you said he may have interviewed the LSU coach since then but according to this thread he has never gotten the chance.
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at the time, Matt was exactly right
No he wasn't. If he was right then he would have to still be right now. That's like saying "well, I was wrong but I was right then". shite just doesn't work that way.
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LSU made a mockery of themselves
They did? Never bothered me at all. Were you embarrassed?
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you handed off one of the biggest jobs in CFB to a guy who was not a proven commodity.
And came out a HUGE WINNER!!!
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Matt has always given O credit where it was due and self admitted several times to being critical of the hire and has since eaten crow.
Well duh. Did he have a choice? Someone posted a link to audio of his stupidity in this thread. You cannot be an idiot in type or media recordings and deny it like some of the idiot Rantards try to do in these threads.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:05 pm to JohnnyU
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Not to kill your narrative but Dellingers story is not that one sided
Thanks for quoting it, you're right. But still, Holgerson apparently had inside track initially, and no one was seriously pursued other than Herman. I just don't think Alleva deserves much credit for Orgeron working out; Orgeron has earned it on his own.
Gene Stallings is the only coach to be fired from his first job, and then win a national championship at his second. The odds were stacked against Orgeron, no matter if you were a fan of the hire or not.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:10 pm to Tiger Ree
I wasn’t but I’ve supported him vehemently and I STILL support him! That doesn’t mean I don’t or CANT question some perceived unscrupulous recruiting tactics!
PS. GFYS Ree you fat POS!
PS. GFYS Ree you fat POS!
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:19 pm to nvasil1
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Holgerson apparently had inside track initially, and no one was seriously pursued other than Herman.
But they were concerned about Holgerson’s issues. The point is that they considered pursuing a number of guys who many would consider over O but, in the end, they all had downsides. Glad we didn’t get Fuentes.
I saw an interview with Urban the other the day and he said the most important thing is RECRUITING!! Meyer! Dabo and Sweeney win because they have the best rosters.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 4:30 pm to JohnnyU
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The point is that they considered pursuing a number of guys who many would consider over O but, in the end, they all had downsides.
Absolutely true, but Orgeron had downsides too, which some posters didn't want anyone to acknowledge in 2016. It was the crux of a lot of the bitching on this board.
Posted on 12/14/19 at 5:30 pm to Lester Earl
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He’s going to come in here and make 13 straight posts, challenge someone to a fight, and post screen shots from photobucket that no one can see
You forgot that he’ll again proclaim his football knowledge to be superior to all the other posters, and spin some wild narrative very loosely based on some random stat and call it “facts and shite”.Posted on 12/14/19 at 6:00 pm to The First Cut
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very loosely based on some random stat and call it “facts and shite”.
Coach O is 3-10 vs teams with less than 5 losses at night in odd year seasons since 2015
Posted on 12/14/19 at 6:19 pm to DByrd2
you know it is wrong if 80 percent of the rant lkes it !
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