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Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:59 am to GeauxTigerTM
quote:No one's being forced to do jack shite. Calm down and have a $9 ultra
That said...I still do not understand why this seems so important to the religious folks. Why must EVERYONE stand there and do the same thing together? Can you not say a prayer for whatever it is you'd like to during the moment of silence...or at any other time? Knowing there are some in attendance that have no interest in taking part, why force this on everyone when you can be just as effective in your prayer request saying it in your own head?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:00 am to GeauxTigerTM
I love my country. If George Washington prayed for the country when he left office, prayer is good.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:00 am to GeauxTigerTM
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There is already a moment of silence, during which everyone is already free to pray to their heart's content.
Actually, people can pray in America 24/7, without any restriction whatsoever. I've never understood grandstanders who demand that prayers must be public so that they can be seen "praying" in public. That's not at all what I was taught about religious devotion and integrity. In a stadium, it's ridiculous, actually.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:00 am to GumboPot
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You don't have to. You can go get a beer or go take a dump.
Correct me if I'm wrong (I'm not) but they did the prayer right before the alma mater and national anthem. Not exactly a time to bail...or do you hate LSU and America?
My question still stands...why is it important to do it out loud, together, and not sufficient to simply say a prayer during a provided moment of silence?
And no...not a prog, just not religious.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:01 am to TBoy
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Actually, people can pray in America 24/7, without any restriction whatsoever. I've never understood grandstanders who demand that prayers must be public so that they can be seen "praying" in public.
Exactly.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:01 am to The Cool No 9
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World needs Jesus
I agree, but are college football games the best forum for public prayer?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:03 am to GeauxTigerTM
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why is it important to do it out loud
It's really not important.
Most people just think it's a nice gesture. Like being polite. "Oh, they are saying something nice about such and such...that's nice." That's the impression I got. There was no Spanish Inquisition.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:06 am to tarzana
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college football games the best forum for public prayer
It was an extremely generic prayer. You can invoke your own deity or not as you see fit.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:11 am to GumboPot
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It's really not important.
Well then...no need to have then, right?
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Most people just think it's a nice gesture.
A Christian prayer? A nice gesture? C'mon...
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:12 am to GumboPot
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It was an extremely generic prayer.
You know what's more generic? A moment of silence.
Or is that too generic? See my point?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:12 am to GeauxTigerTM
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A Christian prayer?
It was only Christian if you wanted it to be Christian, as I recall.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:12 am to GeauxTigerTM
I noticed it...like it...and hope it continues.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:15 am to GumboPot
I can't find the text of it anywhere, but it was basically "we are grateful for this, we are grateful for that, amen".
Think it was more a moment of gratitude than a religious prayer.
Think it was more a moment of gratitude than a religious prayer.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:15 am to GumboPot
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It was only Christian if you wanted it to be Christian
So you're saying it was just as likely a call to Allah for safety during our game in South Louisiana?
See...this is the part where honesty works wonders instead of hiding behind semantics. You know it's a Christian prayer and so does everyone else. I thought lying for the faith was purely a Muslim trait?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:16 am to GeauxTigerTM
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You know it's a Christian prayer and so does everyone else
How so?
Do you have the text?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:18 am to RidiculousHype
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How so?
I'm asking you to be logical for a moment. Do you actually think, in South Louisiana, this was framed as a way to get all three monotheisms together in prayer before a home football game? Do you honestly think that was what the person who decided to start this was thinking?
Or simply phrased in such a way so as to be vague enough to get away with it?
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:21 am to GeauxTigerTM
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So you're saying it was just as likely a call to Allah for safety during our game in South Louisiana?
Most people don't realize that the Christian God and Allah are the same God of Abraham.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:21 am to JPLSU1981
This thread will not change anyone’s mind in either direction.
That said, for those of you that upvoted, how about a hearty allahu akbar right after the prayers to the Christian deity?
ETA: shite, I see now that this has been covered already.
That said, for those of you that upvoted, how about a hearty allahu akbar right after the prayers to the Christian deity?
ETA: shite, I see now that this has been covered already.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 10:22 am
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:21 am to GeauxTigerTM
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I'm asking you to be logical for a moment. Do you actually think, in South Louisiana, this was framed as a way to get all three monotheisms together in prayer before a home football game? Do you honestly think that was what the person who decided to start this was thinking?
Or simply phrased in such a way so as to be vague enough to get away with it?
I'm asking you to be literal for a minute. What was Christian about it? All I heard was a female voice say we are grateful for a few things, and then "amen". If her words weren't addressed to any deity, how was it a Christian prayer?
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