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re: Poche had or has Steve Sax Syndrome
Posted on 6/16/15 at 1:52 am to Big Time Tiger 11
Posted on 6/16/15 at 1:52 am to Big Time Tiger 11
Second throw was mental first was a case where he hit the mound and was throwing up the hill and it screwed him up. It's common with pitchers you are throwing with basically everything you got downhill the entire game and suddenly you are hit a ball you turn to make a simple throw and go to lob it and you are throwing up the mound because of where you are field the ball. shite happens trust me none of you people feel worse for him mainly because you feel like you let your teammates down in that situation. He's the one that has worked his arse off for 2 years while we have all been sitting on the couch thinking about how good we were in high school. It's baseball when you get this far anybody can beat anybody on a given day
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 3:53 am to tigertalkster
I was a pitcher in high school and had some scholly offers. Let me tell you the throw to first base is the hardest one for a pitcher to make. To keep from throwing it away, our coach use to have us take a few steps to first base and underhand it if we had time. Not sure why it was so frigging hard. My guess is you throw hard and at a given distance over and over and then have to make a quick short throw. Tough stuff.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 4:56 am to Big Time Tiger 11
IF ia'm right he will have the same problems for some time.I hope to hell it's not like my son and Steve Sax both back in the 80s..God for bid.. 
Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:04 am to Big Time Tiger 11
I have seen it in Little League and suffered the same issue as a second baseman (very young). When I coached in Little League I realized it was all mental (of course). Anytime the pitcher caught a ball and could not underhand it (and he had this problem of course), I would have the first baseman set up a half step towards second base and give the pitcher a low target. I convinced the pitcher to mentally look at this just like a throw to the catcher. It worked well and I can remember only once the "extra" work led to the runner being safe.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:22 am to im4LSU
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As a player, it has to be frightening to have the ball hit to you & you are completely mind fricked to make a basic throw to first.
Its fricking terrifying
Time for mommy to change your diaper.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:36 am to Big Time Tiger 11
Can't recall the source, but alway remember the line...
"To error (sic) is human. Three is Steve Sax"
"To error (sic) is human. Three is Steve Sax"
Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:42 am to Taurus
This pretty much ruined Chuck Knoblauchs career.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:48 am to Big Time Tiger 11
I remember Sax from my years in L.A. Just hope Poche doesn't develop this throwing phobia. If it looks like he's got a problem, have him practice this shite over and over during the offseason. We'll see.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:50 am to TigerPanzer
Didn't the Yankees have a 2nd baseman who went through the same thing. I think they moved him the left field so they could keep him in the lineup.
FTR I don't think Poche has Steve Sax's Syndrome. He just had a brain fart, then got a little nervous. He will be fine.
FTR I don't think Poche has Steve Sax's Syndrome. He just had a brain fart, then got a little nervous. He will be fine.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:51 am to Big Time Tiger 11
Chuck knablach anyone
Posted on 6/16/15 at 6:51 am to Big Time Tiger 11
it's called the YIPS. I had it in college playing 3rd base. if I had a routine ball hit to me, it was very difficult to make the throw to first. it's a weird deal. it's a mind game. however, if I had to dive to make a play and come up throwing, it was on the fricking money everytime.
chuck knoblock had it. arod had it. many many people have it. once you get the YIPS, you have to have some sort of mental mechanism to get out of it. for example......if a ball is hit to you and you think that you have to scratch your ear before throwing it to first, then that's you mechanism. it's very difficult to get out of this mind game.
golfers experience it all the time too.
chuck knoblock had it. arod had it. many many people have it. once you get the YIPS, you have to have some sort of mental mechanism to get out of it. for example......if a ball is hit to you and you think that you have to scratch your ear before throwing it to first, then that's you mechanism. it's very difficult to get out of this mind game.
golfers experience it all the time too.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:14 am to tigerdup07
Had the same exact issue! if i didnt have time to think, i was a phenom, if i did...crap. Also, in practice I was great. Just a mental thing, but a big one.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:15 am to BuddyLAM
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He should have tryed to underhand it
Agree with this - then drill after drill under pressure until it's fixed.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:34 am to Big Time Tiger 11
He just needs to talk to Rube. Hell, he couldnt even throw it back to the pitcher. 
Posted on 6/16/15 at 7:39 am to Big Time Tiger 11
At least he doesn't have Mackey Sasser syndrome
Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:06 am to tigerdup07
Your take (the ear scratching) is very consistent w/pieces of the article. The sports psychologist quoted in the article called yips "misplaced focus" syndrome. Focusing on scratching your ear (or anything OTHER THAN throwing the ball to first base) would, per the article, cure the problem. Hopefully, Poche's situation is just that - a situation in which his normal, error making capability, as a human being, just happened to have have happened twice on back to back plays by pure coincidence, and isn't the result of a bonafied fully developed case of the yips.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:13 am to TigerTreyjpg
Wish I would have known the ear scratching thing. Coaches back then thought the cure-all was yelling.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:27 am to Big Time Tiger 11
My son struck out 17 batters in a 5 inning game."
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Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:35 am to windmill
Dropped third strikes are still recorded as a SO.
Billy Wagner had 23 K's in a 7 inning game in college.
Billy Wagner had 23 K's in a 7 inning game in college.
Posted on 6/16/15 at 8:44 am to wahoocs
Ann out is an out regardless of how they are recorded. A 15 inning game has 15 outs--right? The defense can't be required to make 17 outs in 5 innings.
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