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re: Please explain why you thought Pelini was a good hire

Posted on 11/6/20 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18443 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 12:57 pm to
Coaches don’t stay with Saban because he’s an a-hole. Also, Saban is exceptional. What he does should not necessarily be the rule. You can’t model your program in that way because there’s only one Saban. Having continuity in football is a great thing. If O can rebuild his staff and keep them around, you will see him have success. I know a lot of people are pissed about this season, but you can’t clean house over one bad year. If next year there is no improvement, then make changes.
Posted by TigerNE
Everett, MA
Member since Jul 2013
1096 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 1:16 pm to
My hand is up here. I thought, after Aranda, it was a good hire. Veteran guy who knows the school/region. I thought the basic deal was, "Don't mess it up" and that he was more than up to it.

Posted by Rust
Member since Feb 2019
572 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:23 pm to
I never mentioned Saban. And yes, the rate at which he experiences coaching turnover is an exception. But coaching turnover on championship staffs is not. Miles lost Pelini after his championship season. Meyer lost Herman after OSU’s championship. Aranda was approached for several jobs before LSU made it to the championship game. Successful coordinators leave for other jobs. It happens. It’s up to the HC to hire good replacements. Ed is not doing a great job in that department. Yes, he is going to get a pass because we just won a championship and the team got gutted by the draft/opt outs and coaching changes during covid. I wasn’t expecting a championship season again this year either. I can understand losing games. Just not in the embarrassing fashion that we are seeing. Some of the coaches I mentioned in my last post have been on staff for a few years. They’re not brand new. And the players at the position they coach are not playing well. “Well, that’s recruiting” or “the players aren’t motivated”. Those coaches are paid A LOT of money to recruit, develop, and motivate their players. If they can’t do those things, they shouldn’t be on staff.
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11293 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 2:35 pm to
go frick yourself loser
Posted by LSUKAT
Birmingham, AL.
Member since Dec 2007
1379 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 4:20 pm to
The ex Coach of Missouri has done awesome for Arkansas. Bound to be someone else out there who was a def HC. Just not Muschamp he acts like a adolescent on the field.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
7343 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 4:20 pm to
I didn't
Posted by Kirby4life
Frisco, Texas
Member since Sep 2011
260 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 5:39 pm to
Can’t say that I saw real red flags prior to game 1. But clearly his past success against mostly power run game-pro set offenses didn’t translate to the new SEC spread style offenses of the 2020 SEC. for that reason alone it’s time to move on.

Geaux Tigers!

And frick Bama!!
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4338 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 6:00 pm to
Experienced guy. Head coach in a major conference. Pretty low risk hire. We had Kevin Steele. Who seems to be the best of the SEC bunch. You guys hated Steele. Mostly because of one game.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 6:31 pm to
I thought it was horrible and inexplicable, then I talked myself into it. Always go with your gut
This post was edited on 11/6/20 at 6:49 pm
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39980 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 6:37 pm to
I was neutral to somewhat skeptical. Never could have imagined it would be anywhere near this bad
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65954 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 6:49 pm to
Pelini had militant-like support around here.

I questioned the hire and got absolutely abused.

I don't know if I have ever seen anything like it.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65954 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 6:56 pm to
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People who know him and football Better than I ever will thought he was home run. If I would have not liked him and he turned out shite, it woulda been nothing more than a lucky guess. He had a seemingly endless list of recommendations.


I understand this. Even Murf, whom I can't stand, loved the Pelini hire.. but that dude isn't always right either. Football people aren't always right. In fact sometimes they can be blinded by the past. I don't need to be a football person to be skeptical of a guy who isn't exactly producing in today's time. I didn't think he was that successful at a lower level. And yes, I understand HC is different, but he has not fielded a legit consistent D in how many years? I don't know football, but I do know results mean something. I do know some players just don't respond or care for certain styles of coaching.

LSU had to continue to pile on money just to get that man to leave Youngstown St. That was a huge concern of mine. He was content where he was and LSU had to keep upping the offer. That's questionable to me for a guy who isn't exactly lighting it up and hasn't for over a decade.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65954 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 7:03 pm to
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Experienced guy. Head coach in a major conference. Pretty low risk hire. We had Kevin Steele. Who seems to be the best of the SEC bunch. You guys hated Steele. Mostly because of one game.


I thought it was a HUGE risk. We didn't really know what to expect from him..

It was a huge risk financially.. Way overpriced to pull out of a tiny school.

It was a risk, because he had not been a DC in SEVERAL years.. Or at least all that successful on the defensive side. I'm sure someone could tell me otherwise though.

I always prefer a guy who is currently lighting it up at the college level at the position than a guy who isn't and hasn't coached it fully in quite some time. I would take a lesser known up and comer who is lighting it up over a guy who has some success over a decade ago.

That's just me though, but it's whatever. IDK. I just never liked the hire. I feel like LSU should be attractive enough to lure someone currently having success. Not have to beg a somewhat washed up defensive mind who was indifferent.

Seems like he really played LSU. Maybe Bo can turn it around though.
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20360 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

I trusted him for the rebuild and still do.


Well you are in for a rude awakening.
Posted by LSU Nguyener
Mzone
Member since Feb 2012
834 posts
Posted on 11/6/20 at 8:55 pm to
“Stop the run on the way to the quarterback” sounded like music to my ears at the time
Posted by p0845330
Member since Aug 2013
5700 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 1:20 am to
Don’t tell me what to do
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14460 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 3:55 am to
What are you talking about? most questioned why he was being paid so much when no one was actively going after him. Many also questioned if he had any experience against the spread? As they say hindsight is 2020 but i give credit because most did question this hire.
Posted by root canal
West Monroe
Member since Dec 2007
1101 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 10:49 am to
Kennabra, he was great 13 years ago. His defenses were ranked #3 nationally all 3 years he was here.
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 11:07 am to
Nobody needs to explain shite and intact most is board didn’t think Pelini was a good hire
Posted by Oneforthemoney
New Iberia, La
Member since Dec 2013
1788 posts
Posted on 11/7/20 at 2:33 pm to
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Who was out there at the time of the hire?


David Reeves
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