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re: Plea to Woodward and Ausberry to end the Schedule Conundrum
Posted on 12/4/24 at 1:53 pm to Tiger4travel
Posted on 12/4/24 at 1:53 pm to Tiger4travel
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why give ourselves a disadvantage when we already play in the grueling SEC.
Because tickets are expensive and we’re sick of rent a wins. A season ticket with games that you can’t even give away the tickets for is just an involuntary donation to the athletic department.
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:13 pm to Tiger4travel
If LSU is a good team it wins those games. It is not a good team.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 2:36 pm to Tiger4travel
You know I feel strongly that if Woodward met with Clemson’s AD right now to discuss canceling the series, I don’t think Clemson would say no.
They already have SC every year. Playing LSU can hurt them more than it helps them. Look at FSU. Beating LSU didn’t help them last season.
I would especially see this coming to fruition if the SEC goes to 9 games in 2026. Would be next to impossible to find a P4 opponent on that short of a notice though. Maybe get lucky and convince a team like Baylor or OK State to come to Tiger stadium
They already have SC every year. Playing LSU can hurt them more than it helps them. Look at FSU. Beating LSU didn’t help them last season.
I would especially see this coming to fruition if the SEC goes to 9 games in 2026. Would be next to impossible to find a P4 opponent on that short of a notice though. Maybe get lucky and convince a team like Baylor or OK State to come to Tiger stadium
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:01 pm to Zap Rowsdower
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If big openers are a problem now and no reason to have them, they would have been, albeit smaller, a problem then too; but nobody saw them that way.
Yeah, but "all your saying" is wrong. When it was a 2 and 4 team playoff, there was some reward for playing these games. It separated you when it got to the end. Right now with 12 teams, there is all risk and zero reward.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 3:02 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:08 pm to GrizzlyAlloy
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all your saying"
What about my saying?
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there is all risk and zero reward.
Notre Dame and Clemson would disagree.
They both lost their big opening games and are both very much still in control of having a playoff spot.
LSU losing against USC did not keep them out of the playoffs. Shitting the bed in conference play did and the SEC wasn’t exactly a top to bottom meat grinder this year. Beat Florida and the Tigers are in the SEC Championship again this year. There isn’t much risk in these big openers as people are arguing either as long as business gets taken care of in conference. So at most it’s a wash and I’d much rather watch good OOC game after no football since February then I would play McNeese or Sam Houston State and see them doing in the national spotlight on opening weekend.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:08 pm to GrizzlyAlloy
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When it was a 2 and 4 team playoff, there was some reward for playing these games. It separated you when it got to the end. Right now with 12 teams, there is all risk and zero reward
Exactly. The “reward” is basically all gone
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:22 pm to Zap Rowsdower
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Notre Dame and Clemson would disagree.
What?!
Those teams PROVE op's point. Clemson lost against Georgia the first game and may have been in the playoff had they played a cupcake and ended up 10-2. Notre Dame sets its own schedule specifically to game the system. They have 5 ACC games and can pick the rest...
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:28 pm to GrizzlyAlloy
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Clemson
Is a conference championship away from being in the playoff this year. Losing to Georgia had no bearing on that.
[quote]Notre Dame sets its own schedule specifically to game the system. They have 5 ACC games and can pick the rest...[/quote
Let’s not act like LSU’s schedule was exactly a meat grinder. But ND shows there’s some positive to winning these big opening weekend games and that they have some reward benefit to them-after their loss against NIU they had some buffer room in the polls.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:32 pm to Holy Bull
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Why are we playing at Clemson next year? Why don't we play a team like Virginia or TCU instead? Seems like that is the approach that Bama and Tennessee are taking
I swear some of you think the schedule is built annually, a year in advance. This Clemson series has been scheduled for years.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:37 pm to Zap Rowsdower
Well ND losing to A&M didn’t have an impact because they beat A&M first of all….secondly, had they played Vanderbilt instead of A&M they’d be ranked about the same place, which was my overall point.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:41 pm to Dupont3
While the current playoff system is in place, schedule 4 rent-a-wins and play the SEC schedule. The End.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:45 pm to Tiger4travel
... OR ...
We could just win the d*mn games.
We could just win the d*mn games.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:51 pm to Tiger4travel
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Well ND losing to A&M didn’t have an impact because they beat A&M first of all
Yeah I edited. Meant to say it helped them with a poll spot because of the loss the next week against NIU. Got ahead of myself and hit submit too early. It’s been a long, rainy day and my thinker is about thunk
Apologies.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:07 pm to Zap Rowsdower
No worries and I understand your point and everyone else’s as well. I also enjoy the bigger games and think they help us prepare for the postseason..and is a large part of why the sec has so much postseason success. That’s the major reason I think the sec wins the nc again in this upcoming playoff, even in a wide open year where nobody is dominant.
However the sec schedule is tough enough on its own to prepare you for postseason. LSU will be battle tested next year at the end of the season regardless of whether they play Clemson. I still think the risk-reward is not worth playing these games in this environment and the results prove it.
However the sec schedule is tough enough on its own to prepare you for postseason. LSU will be battle tested next year at the end of the season regardless of whether they play Clemson. I still think the risk-reward is not worth playing these games in this environment and the results prove it.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:10 pm to Tiger4travel
But we did schedule a well-known "cupcake" this year, and we got beat.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:11 pm to Holy Bull
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Why don't we play a team like Virginia or TCU instead? Seems like that is the approach that Bama and Tennessee are taking
Alabama played at Wisconsin this year.
Typically they are a top 20 team
Posted on 12/4/24 at 5:52 pm to Tiger4travel
Don't lose 3 games in a row and you are probably in the playoffs.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 7:42 pm to Tiger4travel
James
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:35 pm to Tiger4travel
If we can't wanna good game early, we just gonna lose when it counts the most late in the season anyways. Why hide that we not good by playing a scrub team early? Bottom line is, if we had a defense we would have won. This philosophy has no value to the team at all. That's some pussy shiate imo.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 8:57 pm to Zap Rowsdower
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There isn’t much risk in these big openers as people are arguing either as long as business gets taken care of in conference.
CFP rankings going into conference championship weekend:
2022
LSU with 9-3 (6-2) record: #14
Tennessee and Alabama with some conference record but no OOC losses: #6 and #7
2023
LSU with 9-3 (6-2) record: #13
Ole Miss and Missouri with same conference record but no OOC losses: #9 and #11
2024
LSU with 8-4 (5-3) record: NR
Missouri, USCe, Ole Miss, and Alabama with same conference record but no OOC losses: #11, 13, 14, and 19
The OOC loss very likely would have been the difference between making and missing a 12-team playoff in 2022 and 2023.
Sure, if you win the SEC you’re in either way. But only 25% of the SEC teams in the CFP this year (or at most 33%) will be SEC champions. I completely disagree about the risk being blown out of proportion.
Also..
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Beat Florida and the Tigers are in the SEC Championship again this year.
No, if we beat Florida then Texas would be playing Tennessee in the SECCG. Meanwhile, if we beat Florida and USCw we are in the CFP despite still not playing in the SECCG.
The point is that yes, we hurt ourselves by shitting the bed for 3 weeks in SEC play. Yes, we have to take care of business in conference. But if we had beat Florida, that USCw loss would still be keeping us out of the CFP.
This year is a somewhat poor example because USCw turned out to be a bad team, and we clearly weren’t going to compete for a title regardless. But I would expect the next two vs. Clemson to be closer to FSU than USCw.
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