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re: Players entering transfer portal and our compliance department

Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:29 am to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35565 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:29 am to
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If it is true that other universities don’t test for marijuana while LSU does, this makes no sense.


LSU and Louisiana, bastions of temperance.

The answer is, it's not true.
Posted by SupermanSlim
Member since Jan 2018
884 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:30 am to
Then why is everyone saying this and blaming LSU for these supposed suspensions?
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9283 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 8:46 am to
I am generally one to say "follow the rules". However, times are changing and this is being used against LSU.

Players are opting out and looking to transfer because they do not want a suspension on their record that can hurt their draft prospects. You are not going to see the reasons for a suspension in the media, but I am not the only one posting here that has contacts inside the department and knows what is going on.

LSU needs to rethink how they punish the guys. As soon as you throw out a 3 game suspension, the public knows and the NFL is going to get to the bottom of it.
Posted by GhostOfBobBrodhead
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2020
5 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:09 am to
Tim Williams (former Bama star) literally said in pre-draft interviews he failed multiple drug tests but was never suspended.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22979 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:12 am to
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Our compliance department makes smoking weed a multiple game suspension. This is why Tory Carter couldn’t play in his last game as a tiger. Other programs look the other way with good reason . This rule about marijuana is extremely outdated and will only create prescription drug problems down the road. If I had a son playing football at the collegiate level and was offered Percocet for pain by a physician vs weed by someone else, but would have to transfer. You better believe he will be transferring.


I have an excellent paying job that supports my family very well. Add to that I am involved in hazardous activities by legal definition. My employer random drug tests and if I am called to submit a sample and it does not pass then I am fired immediately no questions asked per the zero tolerance policy.

You think weed is harmless. Weed is the second biggest demotivator for individual goal achievement I have ever seen behind cocaine. No, it wont physically harm you but habitual weed smokers generally settle for just getting by.

I am not generally for draconian rules but you got to have some control over the program
This post was edited on 1/26/21 at 9:16 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
73610 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:13 am to
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Tim Williams (former Bama star) literally said in pre-draft interviews he failed multiple drug tests but was never suspended.

Tyrann Mathieu said he failed way over 10 before LSU ever suspended him
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:25 am to
our compliance depart is out of control and seems to be out to ruin our teams. Look at all the future convicts and miscreants that play for Bama and how rarely you ever hear of these kind of things over there. Their compliance dept knows better than to f with the football team. Our compliance dept seems to not give a heads up to the players ahead of time when they will be getting tested for drugs and/or performance enhancement drugs, plus why are we even testing for weed. Why are they looking to bust players for criminal activities and not working with law enforcement to try to protect them from reporting them for criminal activities. Why are they being reported
or even flunked for academic issues and required to attend classes and that sort of thing. Our compliance dept needs to be put in its place and realize their job is to work on keeping players eligible and out of trouble and certainly not to cause them and the team problems.
Posted by elcid
Band Camp
Member since Mar 2007
3036 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:27 am to
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Without weed most athletes wouldn’t be able to play as good as they can.Weed is the best pain reliever there is


Opiates say "Hold My Beer"
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:30 am to
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You think weed is harmless. Weed is the second biggest demotivator for individual goal achievement I have ever seen behind cocaine


who gives a shite. If a star athlete wants to get high or snort some coke for relaxation or even just to party who are we to get on our high horse and tell them otherwise. You do realize this has a huge negative effect on recruiting and player transfers and players declaring early for the NFL draft.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:34 am to
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if these kids can’t prioritize their futures over smoking weed then there’s little I can say to defend them. Grow up.




personally I am tired of hearing top recruits saying they will take their talents to other schools who don't frick with their players the way LSU does
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Tim Williams (former Bama star) literally said in pre-draft interviews he failed multiple drug tests but was never suspended.
quote:

Tyrann Mathieu said he failed way over 10 before LSU ever suspended him
And this highlights the crux of the problem...

NCAA says if you have a policy (that applies outside NCAA sanction events such as bowl games) you must follow it.

So you're left with the choice of violating or bending the rules of your own policy, which then (and only then) becomes a NCAA violation resulting in harsher penalties

OR

Adhering to that policy and losing those players.

Neither is working. Both have huge risks and detriments. When you find yourself in a hole... stop fricking digging.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16174 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 9:42 am to
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Bama doesn't kick players like honey badger off their team for weed, but LSU has and Bama coaches let his recruits know all about it and how it is a blemish on their nfl record. They are scared to come to LSU if they love their weed


truth, I am sick of watching Louisiana players like Devonta Smith, Dylan Moses, Christopher Allen, Christian Harris, Phidaris Mathis and losing Patrick Surtain at the last minute to Bama
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:35 am to
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Without weed most athletes wouldn’t be able to play as good as they can.Weed is the best pain reliever there is

Bullsheet! It had no effect on high ankle sprains and sore elbows. You'll have to trust me when I say I gave it every chance to work...
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35565 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:39 am to
quote:

Then why is everyone saying this and blaming LSU for these supposed suspensions?


Because LSU fans are stupid and believe anything if it gets repeated enough.

Posted by SupermanSlim
Member since Jan 2018
884 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:43 am to
quote:

You think weed is harmless. Weed is the second biggest demotivator for individual goal achievement I have ever seen behind cocaine. No, it wont physically harm you but habitual weed smokers generally settle for just getting by.


I agree with this. Weed makes you lazy and content! If you smoke it regularly, it destroys your work ethic.

But if it is true that other universities are not suspending players for it, then LSU should get on board. Maybe make the players go to some substance abuse counseling, but no game suspensions for testing positive for marijuana
Posted by Damathe
Member since Apr 2020
7092 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 10:59 am to
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When you find yourself in a hole... stop fricking digging.

Upvoted but you lost me there, pard.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59247 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:03 am to
quote:

Weed is the best pain reliever there is



Posted by 97tiger
Member since Dec 2020
69 posts
Posted on 1/26/21 at 11:23 am to
thats funny they dont teach that in medschool. weed is a better and safer alternative to opioids? there are other options short of opioids for pain. i havent read this message board long, but this infatuation with weed is strange. everytime some kid is in trouble its bc of the racist compliance office at LSU.

weed is illegal. until its not, its still an illegal substance. you cant smoke weed at my job. you cant smoke it for many jobs. people have to take some responsibility for themselves and not blame "unfair" rules. thats what we should be teaching kids- you have to function within the rules of society. and we should help them do this through more healthy avenues.
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