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re: Plain and simple, why do some of you have such a issue with JJ?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:24 am to Lacour
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:24 am to Lacour
He's a terrible pocket QB. Straight up. He's godawful. Can't hit a quick out. Holds the ball too long. Slow decisions. the offense runs inefficiently with him.
Hes a good option QB and I support him In that role.
Do me a favor, someone look at pts per game with Lee starting vs Jefferson in their careers. I'm curious.
Hes a good option QB and I support him In that role.
Do me a favor, someone look at pts per game with Lee starting vs Jefferson in their careers. I'm curious.
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Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:25 am to BeeFense5
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are showing how butt hurt you are about JJ. I thought you supported both qb's?
Everyone knew that was bullshite
Dude you can call it butthrut or being pissed off or just confused ... IDGAF.
But why Les did what he did sat with JL /JJ is unexpalinable to me as it is the rest of the majority of this fanbase.
I know there isnt a more happy person alive now than you about how it played out, so Im sorta wasting my time talking to you about it.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:25 am to AlxTgr
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. Lee, who entered the game as the No. 2 quarterback in passing efficiency in the Southeastern Conference with a 151.2 rating with 13 touchdowns and three interceptions.
Lol STAAAAAAAATS! How many int's has JJ thrown this year? And can you check on his efficiency while your at it? Don't let stats misinform you, the coaches have put these young men in the best situation to be efficient.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:25 am to AlxTgr
While I think Lee has played better this season, Lee has a passer rating of 151.19. JJ's? 172.80. Of course, it's in a mere 20 attempts, most of which against WKU, but it is better than Lee's.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:26 am to Methuselah
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You'll never get an honest answer to this question from many of the JJ haters. Heck, some of them probably don't even know themselves why they are compelled to constantly knock him.
lol true wisdom lies in thinking you know everything about people you've never met
dipshit
People dislike JJ mainly b/c he sucked so hard last year, often seems to shirk responsibility for his own failures, seems to get unearned favorable treatment from the coach, and in general comes off poorly attitude-wise, and that's before he got in a barfight two weeks before a possible national championship season.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:26 am to Fun Bunch
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Hes a good option QB and I support him In that role
Except for when you run the option like a big looping slow arse play 5 yards back in the backfield that allows one free man to blow the entire play to pieces
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:28 am to Topwater Trout
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Not saying I agree with JJ getting more snaps over Jl but I did call it.
thats all Im saying.
Not supporting JJ means not wanting him to play.
Im certianly not in that category.
But to play the enitre 3plus qrts uninterrupted whle the started for the majority of the seaosn sits and watches???
I dont get his method or reasoning for doing that.
No one else does here either.
You either happy that he did it.
Pissed or confused.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:28 am to cajunjj
I have seen probably 90% of LSU's games over the last 50 years. I can honestly not think of a time or period whereby I was more frustrated and/or while watching LSU games/football was more painfull.........than the times and games while Jordan Jefferson is/was the quarterback for LSU! I am being as honest and sincere as I can be. It is truly sad to think and know that there are actually people that think it is due, or is somehow over a "race" (black/white) issue. How hillarious. Those who think this are actually the one's who are prejudiced and stuck. I simply will not entertain or address the notion that it has something, or anything, to do with "race".
Come now man. When it comes to LSU's offense and how it looks, moves, operates when Lee vs Jefferson is the quarterback........NOTHING COULD BE MORE PLAIN, CLEAR AND OBVIOUS.
To those who see/understand, no explanation is necessary. To those who don't, no explanation will do!
We will not have the luxury of wasting series (3 and outs with Jefferson) against Arkansas, the SEC Championship Game, or the National Championship Game. If Jordan Jefferson is used in any other manner/way except in certain specific plays, circumstances and situations..............there is a good chance we will not even make it to the SEC Championship game. But I guaranty you this...... if JJ is given anything near significant playing time, and/or is allowed to play for entire or multiple series.........THERE IS NO WAY that LSU will be able to get through (win) the 3 critical games of Arkansas, SEC Champoinship Game, NCC Game. NO WAY!
Come now man. When it comes to LSU's offense and how it looks, moves, operates when Lee vs Jefferson is the quarterback........NOTHING COULD BE MORE PLAIN, CLEAR AND OBVIOUS.
To those who see/understand, no explanation is necessary. To those who don't, no explanation will do!
We will not have the luxury of wasting series (3 and outs with Jefferson) against Arkansas, the SEC Championship Game, or the National Championship Game. If Jordan Jefferson is used in any other manner/way except in certain specific plays, circumstances and situations..............there is a good chance we will not even make it to the SEC Championship game. But I guaranty you this...... if JJ is given anything near significant playing time, and/or is allowed to play for entire or multiple series.........THERE IS NO WAY that LSU will be able to get through (win) the 3 critical games of Arkansas, SEC Champoinship Game, NCC Game. NO WAY!
This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 9:31 am
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:29 am to Fun Bunch
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He's a terrible pocket QB. Straight up. He's godawful. Can't hit a quick out. Holds the ball too long. Slow decisions. the offense runs inefficiently with him.
This is just frickin stupid. JL hasn't led a score on each drive he's had. See UK, Moo st, UO.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:29 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:INTs huh? That's all you've got. Let's examine how many INTs the best QBs in the country have. Yeah, that's right. JJ is a drive killer. he doesn't throw INTs because he does not release the ball until the receiver has a 5 yard gap on his defender. He has never thrown a receiver open while at LSU.
How many int's has JJ thrown this year?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:31 am to Slim
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It is not the anger towards Jefferson, it is the injustice to Lee. This guy started 9 games and we are undefeated yet Lee doesn't get to start the 10th, something isn't right. If Jefferson fails in the future you need Lee to come in and play with confidence. I think Lee's confidence isn't very good right now. Lee should have started tonight, if Miles wanted to put Jefferson in later so be it. Miles has made a statement..Jefferson is the starter.
This is exactly why dual qb scenarios rarely work. Your either constantly messing with a guys rhythm or confidence, or one of them feel like he's getting shafted (ie Jefferson - obviously I haven't spoken to him about this but I am sure he wants to play more). I trust miles to keep it working though. :fingers crossed:
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:31 am to coolcorgi
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I can honestly not think of a time or period whereby I was more frustrated and/or while watching LSU games/football was more painfull.........than the times and games while/when Jordan Jefferson is/was the quarterback for LSU!
no way you're serious. I've seen most games since 95-96ish, and watching 98's defense or 99's offense was way more painful than this.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:32 am to 13SaintTiger
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This is just frickin stupid. JL hasn't led a score on each drive he's had. See UK, Moo st, UO.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:33 am to TIGRLEE
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But why Les did what he did sat with JL /JJ is unexpalinable to me as it is the rest of the majority of this fanbase.
I dont get it. Not sure I buy the skipping class thing either. If JJ is the starter for Arky, I think we drop that game.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:36 am to AlxTgr
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INTs huh? That's all you've got. Let's examine how many INTs the best QBs in the country have. Yeah, that's right. JJ is a drive killer. he doesn't throw INTs because he does not release the ball until the receiver has a 5 yard gap on his defender. He has never thrown a receiver open while at LSU.
I also got the effeciency rating which has JJ at 172, you stat mongul you. You can make excuses all you want, JL kills drives too. You and many others are wrapped around some dumb fantasy that JL is a better qb when both qb's are average. Shite none of you are even given JJ a chance this year which is a shame, support JL even when he fricks up but when JJ doesn't throw when you want him too, all hell breaks loose. Rewatch every game and see how your idol has done compared to JJ, I bet its just about the same.
This post was edited on 11/13/11 at 9:39 am
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:36 am to Lacour
plain and simple, because he is a shitty qb who is very inaccurate and makes poor decisions
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:38 am to bee Rye
Both qbs are not very good. The meltdown over which one plays and starts is embarrassing and laughable at this point
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:38 am to TIGRLEE
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But to play the enitre 3plus qrts uninterrupted whle the started for the majority of the seaosn sits and watches???
I dont get his method or reasoning for doing that.
No one else does here either.
Just throwing it out there, maybe it's because of the four drives in the 3rd quarter, 3 resulted in touchdowns. The fact that the offense was, well, working, doesn't make a good reason?
I would've liked to have seen Lee earlier as well, but to say you can't understand the reasoning? You have to be intentionally obtuse.
I also don't understand people who are complaining about how awful the offense looked. JJ was the QB for 8 drives, not counting the one at the end of the 1st half in which the clock ran out. The offense, in those 8 drives, scored 5 touchdowns.
On the three failed drives, only one was a three-and-out. I don't see this horrible offense everyone else seems to.
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:39 am to coolcorgi
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But I guaranty you this...... if JJ is given anything near significant playing time......THERE IS NO WAY that LSU will be able to get through (win) the 3 critical games of Arkansas, SEC Champoinship Game, NCC Game. NO WAY!
How do you plan to compensate me when you do not hold up your guarantEE?
Posted on 11/13/11 at 9:39 am to 13SaintTiger
quote:Because he is.
You and many others are wrapped around some dumb fantasy that JL is a better qb when both qb's are average.
quote:I've watched every game at least 3 times(not the last one yet) They are not the same. They are not even close. JJ is a poor passing QB forced to be a run/option QB. He's just not good at it.
Rewatch every game and see how your idol has done compared to JJ, I bet its just about the same.
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