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re: Pitching Rotation

Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:53 am to
Posted by diehard24
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:53 am to
dont forget how much the umps were squeezing the zones early in sec play last year so that could have also contributed to jumps early struggles
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13164 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:00 am to
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He was not dominant in SEC play

He had a 3.86 ERA in SEC play, which was 3rd on the team that season behind Skenes and Edwards
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He was still getting hit and walking guys and teams were figuring him out.

He had a .217 BA against in SEC play which was also 3rd behind Skenes and Coleman.

So yeah, maybe dominant was the wrong word. But statistically, he was the 3rd best pitcher on that team in SEC play.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 10:01 am
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2036 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:17 am to
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He had a 3.86 ERA in SEC play, which was 3rd on the team that season behind Skenes and Edwards



He threw 7 innings . SEVEN!. Every pitcher below him threw significantly more than that.


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But statistically, he was the 3rd best pitcher on that team in SEC play.


Context is a real thing

Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75239 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:17 am to
nah, Cowan and Evans should be pitching friday or saturday if we aren’t run ruling people.

winning 2/3 in the SEC has you hosting.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
284792 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:21 am to
They will run out the same rotation for the next few weeks to allow them to improve like a lot of players do.

Same with the bullpen. As you establish who you can trust, everything with tie in better overall.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13164 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:28 am to
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He threw 7 innings . SEVEN!. Every pitcher below him threw significantly more than that.

That's fine, it's a small sample size. But you can't sit here and say that he was bad in that small sample size. He simply wasn't. That's also not really true. There were 9 additional players that had less than 12 IP in SEC play.
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Context is a real thing


Very true. But you stated that he was getting hit around and teams were figuring him out. That is statistically false. He had a better BA against in SEC play than he did in non conference play.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75239 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:34 am to
he was really starting to come on when he got hurt

I think he fired off strike 3 out 3 of his second inning vs Tennessee when he came off and said he hurt his elbow
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
21292 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:59 am to
Until Guidry comes back I think you will see the rotation stay like it is. Eyanson his pitched good enough to stay, Shores has to pitch better and it’s all about location with him. I’m not excited about taking Cowan and Evans out the bullpen and put in the rotation. Schmidt needs to go back to starting mid week games till he can find himself
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75239 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:04 am to
Yeah I feel like coming out the bullpen, being a high leverage guy, inheriting multiple running
you gotta be a very certain type of pitcher

and idk if Schmidt is that guy.

IGoing forward I would like to see Sunday be a TBD spot.

if we don’t need Cowan Friday or Saturday because the bats are alive, let him go, but i’d like to see Schmidt and Shores split some
time there. See how Schmidt does with an inning to setttle in.
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
2036 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:31 am to
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But you can't sit here and say that he was bad in that small sample size. He simply wasn't.



I haven't said one time he was bad but he damn sure wasn't dominant and didn't have some spectacular freshman season like i see posted on here all the time. He was good for a freshman i guess you could say.

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But you stated that he was getting hit around and teams were figuring him out. That is statistically false. He had a better BA against in SEC play than he did in non conference play.



3 of the 4 ER he had on the year were in his last three SEC games. With only 2 pitches you think SEC teams weren't going to figure him out ? Didn't take long this year to do it, idk why 2023 would have been any different. If you extrapolate his SEC innings he would have been trending downwards. He's arguably the same pitcher he was when he got hurt but with more innings for opposing hitters to study from
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13164 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:53 am to
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I haven't said one time he was bad but he damn sure wasn't dominant and didn't have some spectacular freshman season like i see posted on here all the time. He was good for a freshman i guess you could say.

A 1.96 overall ERA and a 3.86 SEC ERA is good for anybody and very good for a freshman.
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Didn't take long this year to do it, idk why 2023 would have been any different.

Maybe because he’s spent that past two years recovering from Tommy John?
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He's arguably the same pitcher he was when he got hurt but with more innings for opposing hitters to study from

Which statistically is totally acceptable for a Sunday starter.
Posted by Dead Mike
Cell Block 4
Member since Mar 2010
3712 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 11:59 am to
It’s not a great feeling to see a bunch of highly touted arms get knocked around early into SEC play, but we should probably keep in mind that guys like Shores and Schmidt are not likely to be stagnant. They are both relatively inexperienced and can be expected to struggle at times, but both have legit top level potential.

If they see improvement like some of the pitchers we’ve seen in previous years (especially Jump and Herring last year - both started slow), then they can have a major impact. There just might be a few more ‘meh’ outings in the process.
Posted by rjokerlsu
Big Spring, TX
Member since Apr 2007
7045 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:08 pm to
As much as I hate to admit it, the time has likely arrived to take Shores out of the rotation.

It is a challenge when returning from TJ surgery. I still think he can be a very good pitcher.

Living so close to his hometown, I have been rooting for him ever since his high school days.
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
5963 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:10 pm to
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With only 2 pitches you think SEC teams weren't going to figure him out ? Didn't take long this year to do it, idk why 2023 would have been any different

You don’t know why someone coming off Tommy John would be different than before? Tell us you don’t know anything about the surgery without telling us lol.
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
1764 posts
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:13 pm to
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I’m hopeful the rotation is solidified once Guidry is back.


Is he even still on the team?
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